Seeing as how grabbing is going back and forth between tags (good stuff!) We would like to remind Earth of SOLs retal policy which is based on alliance wide escalating retals!




Alliance-wide Non Relation Retals

If multiple countries from a single alliance hit the same SOL country the following rules will apply.

- Two Attacks on the same SOL country by members of the same alliance in 72 Hours - 3 retals (1:1 on the first offender, and 2:1 on the second).
- Three Attacks on the same SOL country by members of the same alliance in 72 hours - 6 retals (1:1 on the first, 2:1 on the second, and 3:1 on the third hit).
- Four or more attacks on the same SOL country by members of the same alliance in 72 hours - Choice of Retals, Farming, or Killing the offending country(s) after FR notification.

Note that both a single country hitting multiple SOL countries and multiple countries hitting a single SOL country will result in escalating retals.

Cheers,
SOL Command

do you do L:L?

What about 1 standard hit? A topfeed?

SOL rejects L : L

I reject this policy and substitute my own!

Also, I was told that your escalation policy also applied to two different countries from tag a that hit two different countries in tag b, not just the same country.

Was that accurate? :p

Sounds good to me.

So standard 1:1 escalating retals. Rog-o.

Cool cool

Not per definition no.

However it's something to consider

*grins*
*Hauls in praetor*

Back to the drawing board!@

per 72 hours? hah

So SOL is enforcing a policy that's incomplete and aren't really sure what they are doing?

Interesting.

well, you guys just over-retalled #343, as per the policy you posted :p

3 retals were made on #343
1 for the first hit:
Aug 17/10 4:05:43 AM PS Nothing rhymes with Whorement (#343) (LaF) bayou (#228) (SOL) 375 A (+331 A)
and 2 for the second hit:
Aug 18/10 4:06:09 AM PS Nothing rhymes with Whorement (#343) (LaF) True SOLdier NLS (#249) (SOL) 497 A (+298 A)

which is in accordance with our retal policy.

Thats just 2 hits on sol, not the same sol country which is not covered in what you posted. And since I doubt there is a pact considering there are hits at all, then I would assume that retals on hits on 2 different countries would each be 1:1 ;)

"Note that both a single country hitting multiple SOL countries and multiple countries hitting a single SOL country will result in escalating retals."

How many retals do I get for having to play over there last set?

it doesn't say that in this post? :p

I don't understand why this post was made in the first place :p

As The Omega Minister of Foreign Affairs, I hereby endorse this system of retals for non-relation hits. With the provision that untaggeds/spam taggeds should tag up because we take special license with untaggeds/spam taggeds. Basically we follow 1:1 escalating retals for non-relation alliances, but in exceptional circumstances will seek to recover our land.

battle royallllllllllll

i think this policy would be good if it was 24 hours, which is more like the kind of policy's i remember

72 doesn't really make sense and was only used for retal on retal considerations

Pretty simple policy?

Summary for idiots/Pang:

Don't multi tap our countries.
Don't think you can grap multiple countries.

Simple and reasonable. Two things LaF policies lack.

fluffy policy
and yea if it were 24 hrs it would make sense. otherwise it doesnt. imo you should be prepared to back it up with your weapons :P

LAF bears awfully similar resemblance to RD on Team server.

You are just sad you got pwned Hobo :-)

I don't know why you're being an idiot, dagga...

1) a single LaF country never hit more than 1 SoL player per 24h
2) multiple LaF countries never hit the same player. No SoL country has been hit more than once all set by LaF, to my knowledge, which seems to be SIGNIFICANTLY more knowledge than the sum of SoL's knowledge at this point.

none of these terms apply to ANY of the hits, so why you post this and claim is relevant is beyond me. It's like if I posted a new LaF policy that says "all 4-taps will be retalled with 28 retals!" but you only single tapped me.... It's all fine and good, but keep in mind that it's not actually relevant to ingame issues :p

look at the hits on SoL, now look at Maki's post... no terms were violated, should be 1:1 on each hit by the policies you have posted/have on your site.

Work on the reading, re-learn trolling skills, and maybe TRY to be a nice person, because you are just acting like a piece of fluff right now for the attitude you bring to every single one of you posts, whether it's about me or not.

Did your girlfriend leave you for your best friend or something? Are you in some kind of shame spiral? Do you have underlying depression issues? Is there something we should be doing to help you as a community? You seem like a tortured soul, based on the negative attitude you bring to these forums. This isn't just in regard to me, it's an attitude that has gotten progressively more grumpy and hateful over the years.

I worry for you, dagga, because you do not seem like a happy human being. I haven't seen you dance or spin in years... just push the hate :p

Pang, that policy that Makinso had posted is no longer in effect, he grabbed Praetor and hasn't returned from the "drawing board" with a new pact yet. :P

ya, well I think the bottom line that I was aiming for is that even if people were to accept these terms as is, they do not apply to any current ingame issues that I am aware of :p

if it's just a matter of maki posting the wrong policy, that's fine... but I don't see why there is a need to flame over it when nothing has been done which would activate those terms....

Angel1, I believe Omega has only ever had a policy on hits like that happening within a 24 hr period. We haven't exactly had to make use of that policy in a long time, though (please don't test it!) ;)

now, what would be the result of a single (or two/three) member of Alliance X grabbing each country in Alliance Y only once ...

I reject this Pang and substitute my own!

Pang - it clearly states within 72 hours (not 24 hours which is the usual). Which country 343 did hit 2 SOL's within 72 hours. =)

the policy doesn't talk at all about hitting DIFFERENT countries.



only the SAME countries. It says that like 5 times in maki's post :p
No SoL country was hit more than once, thus, this policy is not relevant regardless.

That has been my point all thread.... this policy is not relevant to any hits that have been made on SoL all set, to my knowledge.

imo laf should kill sol for being daggatards. they don't accept 72 hr anyways, but 42. they should show sol now why they have to accept this.

also, I'm just looking for CLARITY on this policy... because SoL is posting one thing as policy, and then flaming about something different, it seems :p

that has been my point all thread :p

I expect some level of incoherence, but it's pretty easy to use #343 as an example of how this policy DOES NOT apply. Other pieces of policy may apply, but the terms as posted by makinso do NOT apply at all, and I don't believe they are relevant at all to any hits made on SoL all set :p

So I'm at a loss as to why one rather irrelevant piece of SoL's retal policy was posted instead of something more relevant to actual ingame issues :p
Or why the whole of the policy wasn't posted...

people have too complicated policies these days, should just be grab us and we'll fluff you up :D

lol i agree with that :P at least the other new policy was straight forward :P

Alicia is right of course, our policy applied to hitting more than once in 24hrs. At any rate, we have frequently and still frequently take only minimum retals against friends. Not that we have to, but it's a friendly thing to do. Enough to get the message across that LGing us is just bad gaming, but not so much so that it's ridiculous.

It's interesting that any "mainstream" Alliance even has to have such a policy.

Does no one play defense on this server?

Pang, maybe try to re-read maki's 1st post, this sentence is there and #343 hit multiple SOL countries twice in 72 hours so 3 retals (escalating retal) are done. Now #321 (LaF) RoR mmm

what the hell?
he must have tacked that on after the initial post, and is completely contradictory to his first line:

check on your own post at Aug 19th 2010, 19:31:15 that you quoted maki's post, it is there already at that time, unless you didn't read what you are quoting

*LiCkS TTM*

It has been there all along Pang :)

I got bored and left. Watch them close team server because 75% of it is RD, and 25% are untagged RD multies. :3

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