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Slagpit Game profile

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Jun 3rd 2024, 14:56:57

You can see it by clicking "SEARCH" on the left game bar. This was added as part of Change Set 25.

Requiem Game profile

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Jun 3rd 2024, 15:13:51

I just used it. Works pretty good.

Is C:C DR still in change set 25?

Slagpit Game profile

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Jun 3rd 2024, 15:31:17

It is in effect, but I am wondering if C:C DR should be on the Cooperation server at all. I think it was originally intended as an anti-land trading measure? It clearly isn't possible to land trade on this server.

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Jun 3rd 2024, 15:52:00

I like that it defaults to NPC's / untags, but it would be nice if those could be changed (you can't attack them anyways, so low chance of mistakes) - primarily so you can see government counts, top land, sort by NW/acre of players, etc without a third party site.

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Jun 3rd 2024, 17:00:48

Originally posted by Tertius:
I like that it defaults to NPC's / untags, but it would be nice if those could be changed (you can't attack them anyways, so low chance of mistakes) - primarily so you can see government counts, top land, sort by NW/acre of players, etc without a third party site.


Piggybacking on that, maybe the "scores" page needs to show all and allow sorting, etc.

I don't think we should have to submit a search to simply see a list of all countries and such.

Rasp Game profile

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Jun 4th 2024, 14:01:43

Less clicks the better. Especially when we have mobile players
[16:18:00] znc-rasp: We can kill bushido, but not bushifo, zack, moriarty, ghost rider, or darkling
[16:18:07] Req: Is that all the same person?
[16:18:12] symba: yea
[16:18:25] mob: my kids are like dad why are you laughing so much

Rasp Game profile

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Jun 4th 2024, 14:02:55

Search should maybe default to NPCs in low DR or highest projected gains?

Or the normal scores list (sorted by net worth around your country) with a quick button to search/sort by NPC / DR
[16:18:00] znc-rasp: We can kill bushido, but not bushifo, zack, moriarty, ghost rider, or darkling
[16:18:07] Req: Is that all the same person?
[16:18:12] symba: yea
[16:18:25] mob: my kids are like dad why are you laughing so much

Slagpit Game profile

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Jun 4th 2024, 14:44:58

The default isn't that important because the search automatically defaults to whatever you searched for last. The expected workflow for most players is to find search criteria that they like and use those results daily to find targets. They can click on the country name to go to the war room and they can click on defense to go to the spy op.

Tertius Game profile

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Jun 4th 2024, 15:37:07

Having a column for NW difference compared to the op could be nice as ops get out of date.

When I've clicked on the country name to go to the war room, and then sent an attack, I've had the screen get metaframed (e.g. you see multiple copies of the Main Menu / Advisor / Manage sideframe, and multiple war screens) so I've taken to typing them back in. Am I the only one seeing that? Happens on both Chrome and Firefox.

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Jun 5th 2024, 9:08:46

Originally posted by Tertius:
When I've clicked on the country name to go to the war room, and then sent an attack, I've had the screen get metaframed (e.g. you see multiple copies of the Main Menu / Advisor / Manage sideframe, and multiple war screens) so I've taken to typing them back in. Am I the only one seeing that? Happens on both Chrome and Firefox.


same. Safari here.

Requiem Game profile

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Jun 5th 2024, 15:52:04

Safari is the trouble browser for web devs now. It took IE's place :p

UgolinoII Game profile

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Jun 6th 2024, 12:12:28

I know I dev on it and get caught out by things not working on other browsers lol.

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Jun 8th 2024, 16:04:07

This is fantastic. So much better having these tools ingame.

Turtle Crawler Game profile

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Jun 8th 2024, 17:12:50

Originally posted by Slagpit:
It is in effect, but I am wondering if C:C DR should be on the Cooperation server at all. I think it was originally intended as an anti-land trading measure? It clearly isn't possible to land trade on this server.


Yes please remove it

Requiem Game profile

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Jun 8th 2024, 19:54:17

Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:

Yes please remove it

TroyTiger Game profile

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Jun 9th 2024, 2:19:39

Can we get this new in game search added to the FFA server??

Slagpit Game profile

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Jun 9th 2024, 19:17:25

Originally posted by TroyTiger:
Can we get this new in game search added to the FFA server??


Yes, it will be added there after FFA resets in a few days.

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Jun 15th 2024, 14:39:31

Very nice work with this. Now create clan forums ingame and roles and soon third party sites wont be needed :)
HeadHunter

Requiem Game profile

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Aug 2nd 2024, 15:30:39

Originally posted by Slagpit:
It is in effect, but I am wondering if C:C DR should be on the Cooperation server at all. I think it was originally intended as an anti-land trading measure? It clearly isn't possible to land trade on this server.


Bumping for slag, have you thought about this more?

H4xOr WaNgEr Game profile

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Aug 3rd 2024, 16:56:07

I like the c:c DR just because it adds a bit more complexity to grabbing, rather than just mindlessly doing a search and then grabbing from the top of the list down.

NitelL Game profile

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Aug 3rd 2024, 16:57:49

One of the search parameters accounts for C:C DR, so you can still just search and grab from the top of the list down!

Gerdler Game profile

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Aug 3rd 2024, 17:45:18

Originally posted by NitelL:
One of the search parameters accounts for C:C DR, so you can still just search and grab from the top of the list down!

I think you are talking about DR. We are talking about C:C DR.

And last round there was basically zero complexity in grabbing because what remains of it is units to send which is a simple math operation that may or may not matter depending on what stage you are in, c:c DR which remained low for all, and DR which remained under 2 for all bot types all round. Slagpit increased jet losses on SS to make grabbing complex, but in so doing removed all complexity that was there before and replaced it with basically a tax on land that isn't really complex at all. It's mainly just there as a fact of life. I don't think these patchwork features in the grabbing formula are ideally constructed and I wish they were. But you shouldn't just replace them with a tax.

Turtle Crawler Game profile

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Aug 3rd 2024, 20:55:16

Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:
I like the c:c DR just because it adds a bit more complexity to grabbing, rather than just mindlessly doing a search and then grabbing from the top of the list down.


Complexity is good when it makes it more difficult to master and separates results based on skill/knowledge. But CC DR does none of that. It's like playing Mario Cart where everyone behind gets a speed boost.

NitelL Game profile

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Aug 3rd 2024, 21:21:55

Originally posted by Gerdler:

I think you are talking about DR. We are talking about C:C DR.


I'm not.

There is a parameter that is "Minimum Days Since Landgrab".

If you wanna account for C:C DR, just put in higher days, and you won't see a country you have grabbed before.

Requiem Game profile

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Aug 3rd 2024, 23:28:31

Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:
I like the c:c DR just because it adds a bit more complexity to grabbing, rather than just mindlessly doing a search and then grabbing from the top of the list down.


I mean that’s cool but I can just code a tool to do it for me, so let’s just save the effort lolz

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Aug 3rd 2024, 23:31:32

Originally posted by NitelL:
Originally posted by Gerdler:

I think you are talking about DR. We are talking about C:C DR.


I'm not.

There is a parameter that is "Minimum Days Since Landgrab".

If you wanna account for C:C DR, just put in higher days, and you won't see a country you have grabbed before.



It seems unnecessary then aye? Why do you want it so badly?

NitelL Game profile

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Aug 4th 2024, 7:41:55

Originally posted by Requiem:

It seems unnecessary then aye? Why do you want it so badly?


I don't. LOL

My original post was made in response to "if we didn't have this, we'd just be grabbing down the list", to which I said... either way, we're still grabbing down the list.

H4xOr WaNgEr Game profile

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Aug 4th 2024, 13:36:06

Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:
I like the c:c DR just because it adds a bit more complexity to grabbing, rather than just mindlessly doing a search and then grabbing from the top of the list down.


Complexity is good when it makes it more difficult to master and separates results based on skill/knowledge. But CC DR does none of that. It's like playing Mario Cart where everyone behind gets a speed boost.


That is fair enough