Dec 23rd 2011, 1:40:33
[quote poster=KingKaosKnows; 14277; 255119]
Look at every movie related to World War 2, everything is about the US being the saviors, even though the ones that did most of the work were the Russians, there is also the problem of always making the allied forces mean US army, even though Canada also did their part, the British Air force did a huge part of the job dealing with the Luftwaffe, and so on.
You forget that if the US had made separate peace with the Japanese, the Soviet Union would've been fighting a war on two fronts instead of just one.
Are you serious? Is that what they teach in history where you live? Had the US not entered the war, Europe and Russia would have fallen. Period.
We had no need to go to Europe, we could have mopped up the Japanese and cut a deal with Hitler and went right back to our isolationist closet. Instead, we committed far more resources during the early part of the war to the Atlantic theater. Even before the war it was dead US merchant marines that were keeping the UK afloat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/...asualties_in_World_War_II
Military casualties
By Front (Per R. Overmans)[2] Front Total Dead
Eastern Front until 12/31/44 2,742,909
Western Europe until 12/31/44 339,957
Final Battles in Germany 1945 1,230,045
Other (including Sea and Air War Germany) 245,561
Italy 150,660
The Balkans 103,693
Northern Europe 30,165
Africa 16,066
Prisoners of War 459,475
Total 5,318,531
The Russians killed more German soldiers than ALL of the rest of the allied forces combined, and is common knowledge that more than 60% of the German military causalities during the final battles in Germany were done by the Russians.
So if the US had not helped during the war would Germany win the European Front? perhaps... is a BIG maybe.
But If the Russians hadn't killed/wear down the Germans you can bet your ass the war wouldn't had been easy on the western front, and BET your ass the allied forces had it easy compared to what the Germans/Russians had to do on the eastern front.
If the US/Canada and CO had not entered the war, then Britain/France would have been completely and utterly screwed, that is obvious and I won't deny that, but remember Soviet Russia held their ground against a more technological advanced Germany with pretty much no Help, while the Allied forces were pretty much about Team work.
Ever wondered why the allied forces backed out of their plans of messing up with Russia after the war? for this:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/...D0000044D-183_468x357.jpg [/quote]
Originally posted by archaic:
Originally posted by KingKaosKnows:
Look at every movie related to World War 2, everything is about the US being the saviors, even though the ones that did most of the work were the Russians, there is also the problem of always making the allied forces mean US army, even though Canada also did their part, the British Air force did a huge part of the job dealing with the Luftwaffe, and so on.
You forget that if the US had made separate peace with the Japanese, the Soviet Union would've been fighting a war on two fronts instead of just one.
Are you serious? Is that what they teach in history where you live? Had the US not entered the war, Europe and Russia would have fallen. Period.
We had no need to go to Europe, we could have mopped up the Japanese and cut a deal with Hitler and went right back to our isolationist closet. Instead, we committed far more resources during the early part of the war to the Atlantic theater. Even before the war it was dead US merchant marines that were keeping the UK afloat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/...asualties_in_World_War_II
Military casualties
By Front (Per R. Overmans)[2] Front Total Dead
Eastern Front until 12/31/44 2,742,909
Western Europe until 12/31/44 339,957
Final Battles in Germany 1945 1,230,045
Other (including Sea and Air War Germany) 245,561
Italy 150,660
The Balkans 103,693
Northern Europe 30,165
Africa 16,066
Prisoners of War 459,475
Total 5,318,531
The Russians killed more German soldiers than ALL of the rest of the allied forces combined, and is common knowledge that more than 60% of the German military causalities during the final battles in Germany were done by the Russians.
So if the US had not helped during the war would Germany win the European Front? perhaps... is a BIG maybe.
But If the Russians hadn't killed/wear down the Germans you can bet your ass the war wouldn't had been easy on the western front, and BET your ass the allied forces had it easy compared to what the Germans/Russians had to do on the eastern front.
If the US/Canada and CO had not entered the war, then Britain/France would have been completely and utterly screwed, that is obvious and I won't deny that, but remember Soviet Russia held their ground against a more technological advanced Germany with pretty much no Help, while the Allied forces were pretty much about Team work.
Ever wondered why the allied forces backed out of their plans of messing up with Russia after the war? for this:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/...D0000044D-183_468x357.jpg [/quote]
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