err... like i said, NO ONE FARMED YOU.

those were GRABS on you because you DID NOT have proper def.

150k turrets on 6k land is NOT 'all def'. he had a spy op of you.

i also DID explain why going all jetter IS screwing with ppl. i'll try again....
going all jetter to take a retal is screwing ppl because you're doing it in spite and not to grow. you'll never be able to HOLD THE LAND which you got which is the MAIN REASON for doing retals or grabbing.

AGAIN, no one is saying that taking retals is wrong in anyway. just do it proper and not with an all jetter.

i've capped the important parts in efforts to try help you understand. hope it helps.