so, since iscode lied and is a douchebag, we need to berate SoF some more?

you need to take a step back and look at yourself. you WERE lying from SoF's viewpoint, based on the information they had. you have to look at it from the other side. you didnt exactly come put diplomatically and say, look, iscode snuck into your tag. you said HEY EVERYONE SOF IS FULL OF fluff THEY LET SUICIDERS IN WILLINGLY. you also didnt provide proof, you just challenged iscode to prove he WASNT in SoF. you might see where distrust, confusion, and lack of evidence comes into play here. if you had come out and said, iScode is on SoF, here is my proof, what are you going to do about it, things might of gone differently. mistakes were made, but they were fixed. and when your mistakes come to light im going to top every one of these threads. that is a promise.