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Rob Game profile

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Feb 20th 2021, 3:45:57

Can someone please help to explain how exactly does DR work here? Is it exactly 24 hours before the impact of a hit wears off on DR? Or is it less? Also, how much less does each subsequent hit reduce gains from landgrabs

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Feb 20th 2021, 4:02:11

Maybe you can reverse calculate it with this...

2021-02-19 20:48:31 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 374A (403A)
2021-02-19 20:47:14 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 478A (516A)
2021-02-18 20:46:06 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 322A (347A)
2021-02-18 20:45:29 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 416A (448A)
2021-02-18 20:45:24 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 531A (576A)
2021-02-18 20:42:28 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 667A (738A)
2021-02-18 20:42:24 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 831A (949A)
2021-02-17 20:37:49 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 455A (531A)
2021-02-17 20:37:07 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 568A (696A)
2021-02-17 20:36:38 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 701A (909A)
2021-02-17 20:36:30 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 854A (1183A)
2021-02-16 13:54:13 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 687A (1213A)
2021-02-16 13:51:00 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 807A (1584A)
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Gerdler Game profile

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Feb 20th 2021, 4:15:19

DR doesnt go off after 24 hours. its reset after 72 hours. But the impact of hits in the time before 72 hours are subject to a half life which is between 12-24 hours on this server depending on relative military strength (which unless you did the hit with perfect information or spied the attacker and defender at the time of the hit is an unknowable unknown).

Then there is country:country DR which has no reset time but a 168hour static half life.

the stolen acres part is affected mostly by the non-specific DR. So this hit:

2021-02-19 20:48:31 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 374A (403A)

Has quite a lot of stolen acres. But country:country DR is insanely high which is why there are only 29 ghost acres captured or less than 7.5% of the total acreage of the hit.

The first hit:
2021-02-16 13:51:00 PS Dadali (#4) Siffredi (#37) 807A (1584A)

Had almost 50% land gained as ghost acres.

Very informative example.


Half lives, as you know from our physics classes is applied as y=x*0.5^(t/t_half)

where
x = the quantity of what is subject to the half life(the number of hits at a certain time within 72hours)
t = time elapsed
t_half = the half life
y = the quantity left at time t

Tmac Game profile

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Feb 20th 2021, 4:20:23

It's 72 hours before dr wears off. A hit that just happened gives high dr and slowly lowers until 72 hours when it's completely gone. Defense helds go away twice as quick. Missles don't count. The first 3 hits in a 72 hour span don't seem to have any dr. That's all I'm confident in saying. I think there might be even more to it.

Tmac Game profile

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Feb 20th 2021, 4:21:22

Oh, gerdler responded while I wrote that. Listen to him =P

Rob Game profile

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Feb 20th 2021, 5:10:55

Thanks for the responses. Thats useful info right there.

Gerdler Game profile

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Feb 20th 2021, 5:22:43

Come to LaF and we can discuss it further. I have graphs and spreadsheets and fluff not suitable for these forums! :)

Rob Game profile

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Feb 20th 2021, 13:51:23

Originally posted by Gerdler:
Come to LaF and we can discuss it further. I have graphs and spreadsheets and fluff not suitable for these forums! :)


I’ve never played Alliance, so I’ll probably be more of a burden than an asset haha

Gerdler Game profile

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Feb 20th 2021, 14:28:54

Impossible! :)

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Feb 20th 2021, 14:36:27

@Rob

Here is what QZ posted a while back. Hope it helps:

https://www.earthempires.com/...eturns-29694?t=1408818698