Reduce total spy ops to 25 - Earth Empires Forum

aponic

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Sep 1st 2010, 14:30:36

50 is insane in primary. tournament has 25

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diez

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Sep 1st 2010, 15:54:57

to be fair, tournament have only ~40 peeps in each game

ViLSE

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Sep 3rd 2010, 13:34:46

I say keep it as it is, spies are fun.

aponic

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Sep 24th 2010, 0:28:30

it could only be good for suiciding

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llaar

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Oct 11th 2010, 14:19:32

i'd agree with aponic, 50 is a bit much for here

Tertius

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Nov 18th 2010, 10:35:42

I feel quite a few people think that spies are underpowered as is, why limit that aspect even further? If people are using them against you, get more. Am I missing something?

kwmi

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Nov 20th 2010, 7:49:09

seriously, any one target gets "spied out" after 15-20 ops, anyway. If you are using up to 50 ops on a single country in one day, you are doing it wrong.

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aponic

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Nov 20th 2010, 18:07:14

Give me both of your country numbers and I wil demonstrate to you what a suicider with 2 million spies can do to you. The point begin that if I decide to go to 2-3 million spies then I can drop 20 mil networth off of anyone in the closing week. Since there is no point in having more than 25 spy ops in a given day, the excess serves only to fascilitate suiciding.

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Yamaha

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Nov 20th 2010, 21:57:11

In that case I think everyone should only be allowed 15 AB's, BR's, and GS's per day as well. For that matter, only 1 missile can be launched per day so as not to have to inconvenience the netters with buying SDI.

I like spies the way they are, and I will continue to use them as a handy retal option on "too" aggressive LG'ers. (And no, I don't and have never suicided. I could care less what networth you netters end up with)

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kwmi

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Nov 21st 2010, 4:36:40

how can you drop 20 mil NW off anybody? spy ops are only powerful if you are at the same NW as your target, hence, a small suicider is better off with missiles than spy ops.

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aponic

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Nov 21st 2010, 20:05:29

20 million networth off of anyone with a good country. And Yamaha, I am saying that it is excessive. You are ignoring the point of this thread completely.

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Tertius

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Nov 22nd 2010, 6:33:17

I've played a few heavy spy countries, and I always feel gipped due to the silly spy DR that causes you to fail, rather than giving you reduced gains.

I agree with kwmi that it would be very difficult to have 50 successful ops anyways, and I sincerely doubt you can drop 20M NW off of anyone in primary, unless you're talking about people who leave stock at home undefended, but GS would probably work better anyhow.

Dr.Al

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Dec 9th 2010, 23:34:19

Maybe harmfull opps should be limited to 25 but up to 50 for harmless opps? I have found myself using all 50 because of grabbing for a second sitting before the 24h are up, considering your jets are never away for 24h.

When you use 10-15 opps getting a few opps and allies opps you are left with very little to find a few more targets if you only have 25....

Mtn High

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Dec 10th 2010, 4:52:31

I don't find it excessive at all. I do agree that after spying countries and their allies and multiple ones at that (because your not able to hit everyone in the game instantly) that 50 is adequate. Frankly if someone suicides you then kick their ass, it is a war game after all.

aponic

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Dec 11th 2010, 22:28:03

If you have only 48+6 turns in a day and you spend 50 doing spy ops for land targets, then you are in fact an idiot.

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Tertius

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Dec 11th 2010, 23:43:21

Because people aren't allowed to save their turns up to 86+16 bonus and need all 50 in a 24 hour period?

If you're not going to say anything productive why post at all aponic?

aponic

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Dec 13th 2010, 1:59:46

i did say something productive by starting a thread to reduce what is currently a ridiculously high number of spy ops. no one here has said anything substantial to a reason for keeping 50 spy ops.

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aponic

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Dec 13th 2010, 2:01:58

if you have 86 turns and you run 50 turns on ops finding targets, you are still an idiot, fyi

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Tertius

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Dec 13th 2010, 6:07:38

Notice that no one is saying that 50 is not enough; they're saying that 50 is good, 25 is not enough.

You seem to be the only one who thinks that it "is currently a ridiculously high number of spy ops." I don't feel that you have "said anything substantial to a reason [sic]" for changing it from 50 spy ops.

If you want the change, why not make an actual argument? If you can't make your point in seven posts, then you're an idiot fyi.

aponic

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Dec 14th 2010, 0:58:50

yea, just me and the three game admins.

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