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crisseller2011 Game profile

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Aug 24th 2014, 7:46:34

I've always wondered what that thing is for in commies..can someone remind me...or tell me what benefit do we get from it really?

Xinhuan Game profile

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Aug 24th 2014, 10:11:18

If you have 10000 tech points, the Commie bonus means it is calculated *as though* you have 12000 tech points. That is, you will buy 20% less tech points for the same tech% as other countries of the same acreage.

However, if you think about it, this is a somewhat weak bonus. When you sell your military units, you lose 10% to market commission, and when you buy tech with that money, you lose another 10% to commission. Needing to buy 20% less tech points simply negates that disadvantage, for the portion of units and money you spend on tech points.

It is still a positive bonus compared to standard governments with 6% commission, it is just not a bonus which people think it is for. Playing a Commie Techer is one of the worst ways you can play as a techer, because you lose 20% of everything you produce when you sell tech to buy other things (food, military, oil, etc).

Commies must play the Indy strat because it gives a 35% production bonus to military units, which is the only bonus on that government that can overcome the commission disadvantage.

Edited By: Xinhuan on Aug 24th 2014, 10:22:30
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crisseller2011 Game profile

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Aug 24th 2014, 11:38:42

Thanks

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Aug 25th 2014, 16:48:23

Does the demo bonus still work as a de facto effectiveness increase as well as a max increase?

Xinhuan Game profile

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Aug 25th 2014, 17:08:15

Yes Vic, but not in the same way as Commie. A standard government 170% Business tech would be 177% as a Demo with the same amount of tech points.

This is a straight up (170-100)*1.1 + 100 = 177%

If that 170% Business tech country were to be a Commie instead, that amount of tech points would only translate to 173.4%. Because "20% more tech points equivalent" doesn't come close to "10% more maximum tech", as the more tech points you have, the less each point of tech is worth %-wise (diminishing returns).

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Aug 25th 2014, 18:00:41

So basically, demos are best at everythign except attacking. Got it. :P

(obviously I don't really think that)

crisseller2011 Game profile

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Aug 25th 2014, 20:20:26

@xinhuan follow up, it saids +35% tech effectiveness in the benefits for a commie, how is it 20% tech equivalent only again? That is if you dont mind me asking, of all the years me playing this game, thats the thing which I just bothered now wondering its real purpose

cyref Game profile

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Aug 25th 2014, 22:05:21

it's 20%

From ingame "Manage" menu => Help Information on Government Types

Communism
+20% Technology Effectiveness
+35% Industrial Production
+35% Market Sale Size Cap
10% Market Commissions
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crisseller2011 Game profile

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Aug 25th 2014, 22:48:24

Lol. Let me re check my primary later, most of the time I log in game its through mobile now so yeah.. but ok that explains it

LATC Game profile

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Sep 2nd 2014, 20:50:52

I want to be the last poster in every thread!
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?