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Cornfed

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Sep 9th 2013, 16:11:28

I noticed when logging on from the phone, on non-mobile site yesterday it captcha'ed me. Then a bit later I went on again but this time went to the mobile site and it captcha'ed again. Same device, just swapped between mobile and non-mobile.

Cornfed

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Sep 6th 2013, 0:10:16

Originally posted by Soultaker:
just to let you know i support Scodes ruling of numbers 9which i rarely do) if LAF wouldn't have killed evo rival would have we had the breaking power and killed evo countries with 400 mil on hand ... you got to take into account that evo DOES NOT WALL so if you do a kr on a evo country it dies.


6k hit from LaF -> Evo. Rival has barely done twice that in the entire war. If Rival had focused on Evo even with just 4k hits that would have been 4k less on SOL. Less killed SOL countries, more breaking power, more dead SoF breakers, much different numbers.

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Sep 5th 2013, 3:41:14

Originally posted by iScode:


SOF wasnt killing early on, they were growing, so no your assumption more solers would be dead early on is incorrect.My country is a restart, its bigger than quite a few originals and has put out a fluffload more hits than quite a lot of originals, not to mention surviving 4 attempted kill runs.

Your assumptions, thats what they are, assumptions, are incorrect, my conclusions are based on fact.

I highly doubt the numbers would be the same given either of those two things happened as well, but one thing is certain, sof would still be out performing sol regardless of the scenario.



They're not assumptions, they're variables. Variables that could have affected numbers in either direction.

Cornfed

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Sep 5th 2013, 2:57:08

SoF outhit SOL by 700. Say LaF never killed Evo's countries. That would mean less SOL'ers dead early on, since more of SoF's hits would have been on Evo. When a country is killed the first 100 turns can't be used for attacks, not to mention losing any turns when killed. The 700 hits could have easily been made from that if LaF did not take out Evo.
Not to mention Evo would have had more breaking power to take out more SoF completely built countries. Which would have meant lost turns from more SoF restarts.
If LaF had stayed in, this would have been over weeks ago.
I highly doubt the numbers would be the same given either of those two things happened.

Cornfed

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Sep 5th 2013, 2:30:48

Originally posted by iScode:


no not at all, monsters and rival maybe but Evo would be the most influential alliance in the war, despite being hit by laf they are performing very strongly.

However if you are ranking alliances and want to differentiate between one rank, then comparing individual alliances based soley on stats is the right thing to do.

Majority of the stats provided can only be influenced by the alliance in question, no outside force will change these facts.


If Evo didn't lose most it's original countrie to LaF, would the current state of the war be the same? If LaF didn't cease it's attack and kept on vs SOL and Monsters, would the current state of the war be the same? If either of those were true, would those numbers be different? Would they still hold as much weight? That's my only point, I'm not bashing SoF or glorifying SOL, just don't think it can boil down to pure numbers.

Sov - It's never been a war of fairness, people on both sides will cry foul no matter what, it's the nature of this game.

Cornfed

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Sep 5th 2013, 1:50:58

But you're comparing TWO alliances in a war where there are more than TWO alliances.

If it was pure SoF vs SOL then those numbers would hold more weight.

Or are you saying the rest of the clans in the war have not had any influence on those numbers?

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Sep 5th 2013, 1:35:06

Originally posted by iScode:

Despite receiving more hits, and having more countries killed, they have still outhit sol, this is not debatable, this is fact, therefor SOF is outperforming SOL...

If you disagree with this, you are being biased.


If you base this on a pure numbers basis, then sure. But where did Servant say this is based purely on numbers?

Personally, I think comparing 2 alliances' performances in a war where there are other involved parties without looking at anything but numbers is a bit unrealistic.

Cornfed

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Aug 18th 2013, 0:36:35

Somehow I figure hitting with one alliance at a fraction of the size of the other would show more desperation.

Cornfed

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Nov 18th 2012, 23:38:11

Originally posted by Elihaar:
As for me we must let people marry 10 year old babes, corpses and excrements. Pedophiles, necrophiles and coprophiles are also people and deserve their part of love and happiness. All those gays are so selfish and rude - they think only about themselves. :(


Love it when the slippery slope arguments come out :)

If it's a "civil union" and not a "marriage" by law (not any religion) then all couples should be labeled civil union only. Straight or gay.