I still stand by my complaint and my suggestion regarding unbalanced land sizes in FFA.


Interesting Story... Jade Penn beat Rockman on the Express Server. So he obviously has netting skills. My Problem is, Why is he forced to Self Farm or lose on the FFA Server?

I don't expect it to fall below $200, and I sold 45m oil @ $450 around 24hrs ago. I don't think its flooded too much

I've been able to stock 2b bushels total in 7 countries over the course of about 1 week. Right around 300m food each country. I am happy now, so I will lower some prices a bit for this next batch.

110m oil in route for $200. Get it while you can, cause next batch may or may not be higher priced.

My suggestion above would make Midfeeding more benifietal than bottomfeeding, and would decrease the farming on new players. It would also bridge some of the land gap that the Self Farmers clearly have an advantage on. In the long run, making the server more balanced and more exciting.

DR is a completely different issue Meep. One that has also been raised several times.


Nothing has been said yet that would make me feel any different about the unbalanced land sizes on the FFA server.

This was my suggestion in a previous thread that had mixed reviews:




I still believe this would work great in FFA. It would make Midfeeding better than Bottom Feeding. And Both would be able to compete with Self Farming a bit better.

Of course, those bonuses wouldn't happen if you were hitting your own countries though.

This is not an arguement Rockman. I don't need to debate anything with you.


FFA is Unbalanced. And EVERYONE knows it. Even you.


Self Farming = 500k+ Acres, Self Land Trading = 100k+ Acres. SS/PSing other players = 40k-50k.


Doesn't matter how many ways you try to argue it, the numbers don't lie. When was the last time a NON Self Farmed country finished #1 in FFA? What % of the top 10, top 25, top 50 and top 100 have been Self Farmers in the past 5 sets?

Its Unbalanced.

They are the best netters ONLY because they self farm and self land trade.

The players that are putting countries into the top 100 without Self Farming or Self Land Trading are just as skilled or more skilled in my oppinion.

And I think its time that THOSE players have some way to compete with the Self Farmers / Self Land Traders for places in the top 25 and top 10.

If that was the case, then I wouldn't have a problem. But at the end of the set, Self Farmers and Self Land Traders will take up 80%+ of the top 50, 90%+ of the top 25 and probably all of the Top 10.


As I've said, the game is unbalanced. If you can hit your own countrys to reach 100k-500k acres, why shouldn't SS/PSing other players get you those same results, or atleast results competitive enough to compete with the 100k-500k Acre Self Farmers.

Troll somewhere else.

Okay, So even If I give you the 40k-50k that your claiming SS/PSing could get you. Thats still only Half as good as Self Land Trading. And 1/10th as good as Self Farming.

Which again proves my point. The server is not balanced.

Please provide the server with a more balanced game. The FFA server is a "Hit yourself or you lose" server at the moment.

With the current system, Self Farmers can hit over 500k Acres.
With the current system, Self Land Trading can hit over 100k Acres.


With the current system, SS/PSing other player can hit only around 30k Acres.
With the current system, All Exploring can hit you only around 30k Acres.


Can we please have a game where player interaction and SS/PS's are actually useful and able to keep up with other land gaining methods.

I love this... I've been able to stock almost 500m food in the last 4 days in 1 of my countries. Lets keep these wars going :)


On a side note, I want to see some more kills. So I put another 40m on the market at @ $450ea... After thats gone, you can buy my 20m oil at $500ea and if you want more, there's another 40m sitting at $650ea :)

Unfortunately I had an early war. So I am just now getting some stock. I just hope and pray my Oilers can get some stock saved up quickly, so I can make a good finish with them. My farmers on the other hand, are not going to do so hot. I don't expect them to finish high.

My Oilers are making $50m a turn, selling my oil @ $650 :)

I just bought up the food market a bit though. And I hope to do some more of that as well :)

Another 45m in route... In total, I have about 85m oil on the market or in route. And it is the cheapest @ $650 currently. My second batch is cheaper, but not by much ;)

I did appreciate the 6.2b cash I found in the 1st country I logged into. I bought up like 135m food @ $41... If I can just stock that much each day, for 10 days, I'll be set ;)

Do you Self Farm? And have you not defended Self Farming? What about Warster? Does he not as well? What about the other Admins/Mods? Don't they always come into these threads, even though they don't play FFA, and side with you regardless?



If you understand that you should be able to SS/PS up to 100k Acres like Self Farming, why hasn't there been any changes?



Its funny how a 10k Acre Country can break a 200k Acre Country and get 600 Acres. Then the 200k Acre Country can then retal it, and take back more than 600 Acres from the attacker. Everyone knows the DR system is retarded, but still nothing has been done.



I know of atleast 15 players that are gone because of what FFA is becoming. At this point its either Self Farm or you lose.

This is exactly the reason why I don't plan on playing this game much longer.

How can you say I am bad mouthing the admins? If by speaking the truth, I am bad mouthing you, then I am not the one that needs a "Timeout" to rethink things.

Sorry if you think I am directing something at you. I am personally just tired of this being ignored. And I was only defending my stance against Rockman and letting the originator of this thread know that its a waste of time to even discuss this.

That is an interesting Idea... If there was a server like that, I might be down...

Its a fact that Game Mods and Admins Self Farm in FFA.
Its a fact that you can only get to 100k Acres Self Farming.
Its a fact that you don't need military, only DR to defend your country.
Its a fact that the Game Mods don't give 2 fluffs about warring and only care about netting.



Because I don't play Express or Primary. I only play around in Tourney and I've just started playing in Alliance.




Its easy to succeed when you level the playing field between netters and warriors by adding "Quick" attack buttons, so the netters are not at any skill disadvantage anymore.



Wrong. The Admins/Mods have created a Netting Friendly game and have been pushing the warriors out of FFA for a while now. Almost EVERY change has been in favor of netters, and created a new game where warriors no longer have any advantage anymore.

I don't plan on playing this game much longer anyways. Its not the game I loved to play anymore. And its because of attitudes like yours and the Game Admins that I will find some other game to play.

48.6m Oil In Route @ $650ea

Now... Someone needs to just buy it and I'd make a quick $3.5b-$4.5b in each country :)

<--- Recalling Oil at $400... Reselling for $650 :)

I produce between 5.5m-8m oil in each country per day... Buy it @ $400+ :)

Give it up... Its useless...

The Game Mods/Administrators Self Farm. They don't want to give up there only advantage and only way they can make the Top 100.

They don't comprehend that if you can Self Farm up to 100k Acres, you should be able to SS/PS others to hit 100k Acres.

They don't comprehend the need to defend your country with military, so they allow you to use DR as defense.

Instead of looking at Troops, Jets, Turrets and Tanks as Military, they look at them as NW. They've already ran off alot of players, and more, including myself will be gone soon too.

Just by my SUPER CHEAP $400 Oil in a few hours when It hits the market :)

We can all be happy then ($2b+ per county spending only 120 Turns to generate it)

400 Seems about right... Beggars Can't be choosers ;)

xxx placed 5,870,487 Oil Barrels for sale on the public market.
xxx placed 6,048,399 Oil Barrels for sale on the public market.
xxx placed 7,162,491 Oil Barrels for sale on the public market.
xxx placed 6,793,442 Oil Barrels for sale on the public market.
xxx placed 6,540,827 Oil Barrels for sale on the public market.
xxx placed 7,709,704 Oil Barrels for sale on the public market.
xxx placed 6,880,620 Oil Barrels for sale on the public market.

45m Oil In Route... What should I sell it for?

Pics of the glove + sweaty foreheads or it didn't happen.

30mil still on the market... Buy it up before TinySub's cheaper stuff arrives and your jets fall from the sky from bad oil.

45m Oil in route @ 165... Buy it and have some fun :)

I was a Republic/Farmer doing my final batch explore as Republic before Switching govs. I did not expect an exploration halt after only 44 turns. As I said, I had positive food production every turn. Until the negative food turn showed up and took me to something like -30 food produced for that turn.

Actually, it was more or less, I was being lazy. So I turned on the "Sell Food every turn" since I had positive food production.

I surely hope those game mechanics were not intended. Because halting during a batch explore really sucks.

I've had worse :(

As a farmer early set, I was setting up to do a Batch Explore with the Sell Food Every Turn check box clicked.

I entered 134 Turns and hit enter.

Received an Exploration halted due to food shortages because of a stupid negative food thing after exploring only 44 turns.

Which completely screwed up my entire set for that country. My batch explore plan was completely shot. And in the end, ended up around 2k acres shy of my other countries that didn't halt due to food shortages.

Diablo 3 Beta :)

Its Official... EE has its own Charlie Sheen!!!

Keep the quotes coming :)

Why is Troop/Spy Production done in Industrial Sites and not Military Barracks? I've always wondered that ;)


I like the Idea of more Governments. But the current grabbing vs exploring vs self farming is way unbalanced.


Its not the lack of skill, its unbalanced game mechanics that make SS/PS < All X < Self Farming.


Let me ask you something...

If Player 1 SS/PS all set and ended with 100k Land
and
Player 2 Self Farmed all set and ended with 100k Land

Who ends with a better NW?


Player 2 still wins, because they didn't have to pay for military expenses and losses all set.


In Reality though, if you want to SS and PS your land, you'll probably end with less than 30k. Which, in no way shape or form, can compete with any self farmers.


I really don't give a fluff if you allow Self Farming or not. The point is, make the game balanced and not completely lopsided in favor of Self Farmers. They get EVERY perk for netgaining, and none of the flaws. Its rather ridiculous.

Really? Where? Haven't seen her around in ages

Cueball, Bahzell, Ciscosmok, MasterC, Crystal Carnage, Thunder, Polgara, Thorny, Warchief, Mambo No5, Hera, Leap, Phobos, Spectre, Teejay, ToFu, Toby, UKGuyz71, Queen, Chenboy, Collective65, FuzzyWabbit, Janitor Estupido, Killer2, Le Legionare, BiggWillStyle, Sherita.... I don't know where to even end this list... There are too many to count.

Make Grabbing other players countries as competitive as grabbing your own countries...

Who said anything about unlimited countries?

Give players more reason to hit other players for land. Make it beneficial to players to hit each other. Give the game more balance, so other people can do well besides Self Farmers. I mean really, it takes more skill to hit other players effectively than it does to hit your own countries. Yet you end up with more land hitting yourself. Doesn't really make any sense to me.

and +1 for prank calling Mehul :)

Self Farming will always exist. No way around it.

I'd really like to hear someone give a valid reason why my suggestion would not work. The Self Farmers could still reach those same land totals, so nothing would change there. The only change would be that there would be another way to reach those high land totals. And it encourages people to hit different countries, instead of farming the same ones.

Give Countries a 200% Ghost Acre bonus for their 1st hit on any country during a set.

Give Countries a 100% Ghost Acre bonus for any subsequent attack on that same country after a 1 week cooldown period.


Example:

5/4/2011 Country A hits Country B. Receives 200% Ghost Bonus.
5/4/2011 Country A hits Country B. Receives No Additional Bonus.
5/11/2011 Country A hits Country B. Receives 100% Ghost Bonus.
5/11/2011 Country A hits Country B. Receives No Additional Bonus.

Or

5/4/2011 Country A hits Country B. Receives 200% Ghost Bonus.
5/4/2011 Country A hits Country C. Receives 200% Ghost Bonus.
5/4/2011 Country A hits Country D. Receives 200% Ghost Bonus.
5/4/2011 Country A hits Country E. Receives 200% Ghost Bonus.



This provides players with incentives to SS/PS different countries instead of farming the same country.


I believe this would also help bridge some of the gap between land sizes of Self Farmers and those that prefer SS/PSing other players.


If Self Farmers want to Self Farm, I think it wouldn't be a problem. As long as those who don't Self Farm are provided the same opportunity to get high land sizes.


*Disable this bonus when hitting your own countries, to disable any added Self Farming bonus that they might obtain.

<--- Im not over 30 :(

Thank you all for putting us on War DNH and staying out of our war with NiceGuys.

NBK, Thanks again for policing for us.


NiceGuys - Thanks for the fun. We had a hard time breaking down some of your big countries. I hope to see you guys around again. No hard feeling from us. If you'd like a pact from us feel free to message me privately and we can discuss it. Good luck in all your future endevours.



War Stats are not really important, so if you want to see them, search them yourself.


Feel free to remove any War DNH from the PoD tag.

AndrewMose is the luckiest person EVER!!!

He literally left me at 4 civilians for 1hr 50m. Unfortunately even though I got a text from jcatron to wall, I was in a meeting at work and I could not under any circumstance, use my phone :(

4 Members and 2 are taking this set off. Does it really bother you that we are not recruiting anyone and everyone like other clans?


I mean, I could talk 10+ of my fellow MDers in Alliance to come play FFA. But that's not what we are after with PoD. Its not about the numbers, its about the quality. We are not going to fill our ranks, just to have members. We only are going to take members that are in it for the long haul.

Ignore Ozzite... He has no idea what he is talking about.


No PoD Member has ever been caught cheating.
No PoD Member has ever been caught running a bot.
No PoD Member has ever snipped kills from an enemy. (Or Detagged to pad stats)
No PoD Member has ever ran from a war.
All of our members know the game.
All of our members can kill better than you.
All of our members would fight to the death 10x over if needed.
All of our members follow our Policy and do not cause problems.


Now please run along there Ozzite. No clan you have ever been in can say the same thing.

You all know he should join PoD. The clan that doesn't take people just to have people. This is why we have been so selective in our search for members. Because players like Aquaview DO occasionally look for a new home and those are the only type of members we want.


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You've known me forever Aquaview... Come join me in PoD and help us create something special.