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DerrickICN:
Your scope is so limited lol. I dunno. LaF got FSed 2 times in the last 5 years and started the hitting once. After those sets signed a CF that would have lasted the next year, had changes not gone into effect. That's hardly "getting forced to war every set." That's getting forced to war twice in a 5 year period.
From what I can tell, Gerdler made some people mad that generally aren't all mad at LaF at the same time. SOL and SoF, for example, have often aligned with LaF. The fact that they were all mad at LaF at once says more about LaF than it does the opposition.
Further, Elders membership at its peak was essentially a rag-tag group of people from a variety of small tags that LaF had repeatedly harassed and threatened over the years. When a group with essentially only that in common come together, and grow to a point of being as large and powerful, it also says more about LaF than it does its former victims that they were unable to run off. You made more enemies than you have players in your tag, and you want to blame the fact that, what, your enemies worked together?
Again, I think you're being intentionally naive and biased rather than having open discourse, so it's hardly worth talking sense with you. All I'll say is an old adage that it "takes two to tango." If you've made more enemies than allies recently, you were quite simply playing the politics poorly. It's not more complicated than that.
If I'm wrong, why then is hitting LaF such a powerful recruitment tool? It can't just be that you were always super sweet folks that 100s of people dislike for no reason... You'd of course never admit to anything tho, because you have no desire to find a middle ground. And that's what frustrates the hell out of people like PDM, KoH and myself who constantly live there.
Making over half of a community mad AND simultaneously doing literally nothing to try to reconcile that anger is a wild CHOICE for anyone desiring peace in any aspect of life.
Your post is essentially a "might makes right" rationalization. These are the things you've used to justify your own behavior, but aren't actually logical. The ability to form a YAALC (yet another anti LaF coalition) didn't create a moral imperative, doesn't mean it's good for the game, doesn't really mean anything at all beyond the ability to do it. They also couldn't possibly convince anyone about any of those things., which is why they are nothing but a self rationalization. You know this, and now you know that I know that you know it. You are no different than those who came before you, who all failed and lost, just like you have yet again. Really you lost the second you made your coalition to be against something rather than for something, the negative aspects of a goal always lead to failure.
Compared to LaF, which always builds itself, always looks to improve itself, all positive goals. So we always win in the end.
It's why the only real way to defeat LaF is to do the same. Evo was an attempt at that once upon a time. Notice how they are still around and put up T10s. Monsters and PDM aren't trying to destroy others and they do great.
But you, you misbehave to the point of server admins having to add protections into the game itself. You and your strategies have been judged (correctly) as griefing. And because you have no positive goals you quit. That's the true state of your YAALC.
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