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Nov 19th 2012, 12:06:48

Ok, i did the count.
By spy ops EVO had 1016 turns on hand + 743 stored for 32 countries (avg 55 turns). + the turns they will have at login.
By spy ops LCN had 303 turns on hand + 634 stored for 16 countries (avg 57 turns). + the turns they will have at login.

Still think about avg 100 turns on hand at login.
Seems not so bad as it can be:) But indeed they wasnt well prepared.

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Nov 19th 2012, 9:47:56

Originally posted by anoniem:
oh and rival netting is almost as laughable as evo warring, so duna that implies you didn't want a good fight, but merely to blindside two unpacted alliances. kudos, your warring prowess is definitely going to be put on show in this fight!


Rival netting alot worse than Evo warring:) You guys did well back to june. And our netting... Its like PDM warring:)

Originally posted by Rossoneri:
Far from every country having 120(120) no?

Besides, there are valid netting reasons for not playing turns, not that you would know, because everything to you is a wargame.


120(120) is red alert, not yellow.
And yes, i know about saving turns for netting, but turns is turns no matter why you save them.

Originally posted by tellarion:
What do these numbers have to do with anything? You picked our top 5 as of now, after you killed our top countries. Not to mention these numbers clearly show we were not storing turns in any legitimate fashion. You know we weren't ready for war in any sense.


Ok, i`ll make a full counting of prewar spyops to check turns.
And well, i was talking to Scode about turns advantage. I told him you guys have some turns stored. Nothing about war preparation. 240 vs 110 isnt same as 240 vs 40.

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Nov 19th 2012, 8:53:44

5 random (more like top-down) spy ops i see (mostly preFS ops):
#647 - 53 turns
#67 - 119 turns
#153 - 91(53) turns
#130 - 30(84) turns
#340 - 89(29) turns
Total 548. Avg 109 turns. Pretty much for ppl who are not storing turns.
If you are interested in full turns statistic, i can also do it, but it will take some time.

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Nov 19th 2012, 8:16:45

Originally posted by iScode:

First of all, they may have more members but having two alliances fight along side each other is a lot harder than fighting one on one. Based on previous experience I believe it reduces war effectiveness by about 10% due to target selection planning, co-ordinating offline targets, trying to have your members follow other leaders orders. People (myself included) have said that is has no effect, I now disagree with this from personal experience.


Well, i can agree with it, but its highly depends on leaders. Evo has a big experience in coordinating back to june-august (and they did it well). So, coordinating is a part of war.

Originally posted by iScode:

Second, the obvious one, they didnt get the FS advantage. No stored turns, so you will out hit them by a mile in the first 48 hours, and then from there on will continue to out hit them.

I`m not sure, but as tellarion said, he switch off yellow just 3h before FS, so i bet 70% of EVO has stored turns. I bet LCN also has some turns stored, because they did 4 KRs earlier. But yes, its our advantage. But we need to have some advantages also:)


Originally posted by iScode:

Third, its late in the set, they will not have a chance to be able to absorb the FS and use the number advantage to get any footing back in the war, especially as after 48 hours I would expect at least 25 of those 68 dead.

Restarts will be 4K land now, they will attack from 101 turn and will be able to get 500K troops/jets at turn 200. Seems pretty good for me.
And 25 is seems a bit much for me. Dont forget we have alot of members:) If it would be 61 Duna`s vs 68, then war would be done in less than 24h:) But its 61 very different ppl, some of them dont even have misilles, sdi and so on.

Originally posted by iScode:

Fourth, I would guess that your target selection focused on High stock and high spal countries as well as using your high spals effectively to remove any missiles they had. While you would of been able to ensure 80-90% of your missiles were used before they could be defused.

Agree, but again, we have alot of ppl with like 10 misilles.

Originally posted by iScode:

Also without any spy countries, the stock they do have will get used quickly, not being able to demo/cd targets this late in the set is a huge drain on stock, so while rival is limiting the damage on the stock you have by using your high spal countries for CD/demo after the initial 48 hours (i would say you would target easy kill/ high stock countries while focusing on using your spies for removing any missiles they have correct?) evo/lcn will be having to use far more stock to get kills (not to mention wallers who get online with fluff loads of turns on hand due to saving, sucking up even more stock.)

This is short war, so i guess with EVOs stock they can use it till reset ends if they will wall. Im not sure about formulas, but as i see you can stay with like 100-500K troops/turrets and wall well even if they break you. Just because very low pop loses. Check 3K attack on Dragon (or someone else, i dont remember) from SoL from last reset.


Originally posted by anoniem:
you have wasted countless hours from evo members, and will have caused SEVERAL members to fluffing quit the game due to your bullfluff antics. When I say quit the game i mean quit.


My appologies to this ppl, but if they are afraid of war, they better play simcity. On other hand, we would lose some memebers if we dont war, so its lose-lose.

Originally posted by Pride:
If you wanted SOL why not hit SOL?


Because i`m Rival peon and not Rival dictator. My work is recruite and not decide who to hit:)
And well, if we are at dream minute, I would like to see the Rival-MD prearranged war, but SoF took this opportunity from us.

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Nov 19th 2012, 6:05:30

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<Duna> As for me, i can tell, we definitely dont plan war with you:)


I can confirm it again. We had no plan to war you. Do you rly think we would FS both EVO&LCN and wait so late if we wanted to kill EVO?

As for me, i never hide my opinion. I wanted (and still want) to war SoL, but its not my decision.

Btw, you has alot of turns i see:)

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Nov 19th 2012, 5:39:10

tellarion, RIVAL netting?:) Sounds like a joke:) Its more like "we are looking for war target - here it is".
Oh, and also, its bad idea to took off yellow if you see 25 dicts:)


Oh btw, LaF has nothing with this war. Stop discussing it.

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Nov 19th 2012, 5:17:37

Originally posted by anoniem:
if you wanted an interesting war:

1) you wouldn't have FSed two alliances that are UNPACTED.
2) you wouldn't have FSed one alliance who were in complete netting mode, low troops, 0 sdi etc.

i used to think higher of you duna, particularly when you ran DU, but now i see that as soon as you get into a position of power in a war tag you throw your weight about.

kudos to you. you're the big man now ;)


1) Can you give us your pacts list, so next time we will know who to FS with EVO?
2) Well, it means you are playing this game wrong. This is war game, so why you play it like simcity? Its almost as stupid as SoL with their "we are warring alliance, so we dont need to know how to netgain".

As for DU, we was always up for a good fight, but somehow we never was in war with our sized alliance (i belive its because our size alliances was scared of us), most time we warred alliances like SoL and Laf, who was like 5x more than DU:) The most even fight i can remember is when Exodus+Rage killed us, then LCN killed almost all Exodus, we made peace with Rage and it was almost same sized war DU-Exodus (they still had a bit advantage, but still). So, you guys now have alot better position than DU ever.


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Why LCN? I think they prefer good fight instead of wasting reset after imag. As for me, I apologize to the LCN, if I'm wrong. I never wanted to hurt you.

And yes, EVO&LCN are not well prepared, but EVO has a HUGE stock, this will allow you to break any target. And you guys in EVO did a well job back to june. LCN is good warriors also. On other hand RIVAL has more than 20 members, who has very small experience in EE, and 14 countries with number over 700 (=lost turns). And its 61v68 (11% more members). So, stop crying and orgineze killruns with LCN. If you will fight back, you have not bad chances to win.

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Nov 18th 2012, 20:14:31

EVO+LCN has more nw, more members and more stock, i hope it will be interesting war.

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Nov 14th 2012, 14:14:39

bonus!

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Nov 9th 2012, 19:36:39

top10 = 3M nw.

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Nov 5th 2012, 6:41:40

Ah lol Hellrush. You are funny:)

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Nov 4th 2012, 12:48:31

PG - http://goo.gl/e5CGe (priZe & priCe)

Originally posted by Hellrush:
Rival sucks. They can go bite me.

three reasons why not to join Rival.

1. PG is a fluff Whole
2. They will let people join just so they can get information off you. Once they do they kick you out on you but.
3. There are way way better clans then Rival.(I would join NA before joining Rival, most know how llaar and I get along so that will never happen.)


Hellrush give me your country # and we will come bite you.

1. LOL:) So, PG is the first reason? RIVAL must be very bad if first reason is someone in RIVAL:)
2. We dont kick ppl unless they violate RIVAL rules many times. Basically, i dont know about anybody, who RIVAL kicked out in EE era.
3. Maybe some clans better than RIVAL, but its all depends on comparison. And we trying to improve our alliance in contrast to the many other alliances.

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Nov 4th 2012, 8:15:42

We are nice with numbers, but we almost dont have asians!
If you live in asia, you will get special prize from me for joining RIVAL!

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Nov 2nd 2012, 5:22:41

Confirmed.
Thanks for good war guys.

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Oct 25th 2012, 7:54:19

I dont know why, but i just thought about old earth2025 times. And i remember 150 countries MD FSed 200 countries SoL and forced them to call in Arrow to save their asses:)
Of course SoF alot better than SoL, but its still 3:4. MD should rly learn from their past.

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Oct 25th 2012, 5:23:16

So, why MD didnt FS SoF to help TIE? It would make war more interesting.

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Oct 24th 2012, 6:46:20

But please keep our farmland (imag) on DNH:) We need some land.

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Oct 23rd 2012, 16:01:20

We are in war! Time to increase!

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Oct 23rd 2012, 16:00:25

Join RIVAL!
Contact in sign.

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Oct 22nd 2012, 12:53:03

Originally posted by Alin:
PDm took several outnumber beatings ( Sof / Rival )


LIE! RIVAL was never in war with PDM.

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Oct 22nd 2012, 12:13:35

TIE dont need land anyways:) Dont be greedy and share some land with LaF:)

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Oct 22nd 2012, 5:27:24

Go SoF!

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Oct 22nd 2012, 5:26:58

Originally posted by iTarl:
if you ask a question, or for an explanation then you are a whinner?

duna you sound like an ass.


Big comment:) And then you wonder why we kill you:)

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Oct 21st 2012, 15:46:31

Oh, also. May i ask someone from LCN. Are you guys feel yourself bad because we killing iMag?:)

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Oct 21st 2012, 14:52:29

Originally posted by iTarl:
I say again, we are doing exactly what the members of Imaginary Numbers want to do. after 12 years and 2 servers you guys still dont get it, its not that hard to figure out, is it?


If you do what you want, why you cry so much then?

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Oct 21st 2012, 13:15:25

Originally posted by Sifos:
We ganged up on you? I'm sorry, I don't remember imag ever hitting a tag with such a huge member advantage...

Duna, maybe your members think a war with 4:1 member advantage is good and fun. I consider it a waste of time.


What should we do? Detag 40 members to do it even? And then retag them again?:) Lol, but then you will cry about "recruiting in war" again:)

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Oct 21st 2012, 10:50:29

PS
LCN will have a chance to prove themself somewhere in future.

PPS
Sifos, i like how ppl think they wasted our reset (you are not the first who think so):) If you think so - good luck with it:)

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Oct 21st 2012, 10:43:54

Ok:)
My time to write some random words:)
First of all, as always i want to make note, what i represent only myself and not RIVAL by anyway.

Ok, now. iScode, thanks for explaining your point of view. Its good. I understand it. But well, we in RIVAL dont agree with it. As we dont agree - we declare war on you.

Also, i want to make a note for you. In my eyes its alot better to make preemptive CS (= declare war before your enemy declare on you) than declare war on someone, who dropped you. And here we come to the jun-august. Alot of RIVALers went on vacation (30 finished previous reset and we started new reset with like 20-25). Noone told me, what we going to have a interesting war, but then we see TIE outpacting all our allies and refuse to pact us. We are smart guys&girls and know, what it means. So, we made a preemptive CS:) TIE kinda outplayed us at start of reset. But if we want to refer to dirty tactics, i see its as dirty tactic to outpact peacefull alliance and force him to 1v1 fight. Ok, we accepted the challange. But then you do such unfriendly war invitaition, dont expect someone to keep the war friendly. TIE did all to win (they also invited like 7-8 ppl), we did all to win. We was just better. You didnt like to see RIVAL win - you declare war on us. Its ok, we accepted it also. But dont expect us to let you get out with it. We are not saints:) You made a decision, so you have to pay for it. So, now, can you tell me whats wrong with it?

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Oct 18th 2012, 15:03:42

5 kills. Damn, iMag has a good chances to beat up awesome 7 kills from previous reset.

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Oct 17th 2012, 21:01:29

http://earthgraphs.com/...0aa8f0639bdfee4dd968d682d

Oh my god. 4 kills by imag. What happened with you guys? Are you discovered secret way to add 10M troops?

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Oct 14th 2012, 14:39:52

I`m dirty commy.

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Oct 12th 2012, 6:59:02

Join RIVAL! We need more ppl to get 60!

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Oct 12th 2012, 6:57:49

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Oct 9th 2012, 9:25:56

JOIN RIVAL!
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Oct 9th 2012, 9:04:36

Originally posted by Pride:
You know I meant this set right?


Never thought about it. It was a end set challange:) But ok, if you want it this reset its ok. Challange accepted!!!

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Oct 5th 2012, 13:26:42

WOHOOOOOOOOO!!!
WE DID IT!!!!
/me waiting for Prides country name

PS
JOIN RIVAL!!! We need 100 at end of next reset!

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Oct 5th 2012, 5:09:29

LCN 1,949,117,907
Paradigm 370,697,157


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Oct 4th 2012, 7:25:03

HOLY fluff!!! 3.2K hits.
Congrats Dragon!

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Oct 3rd 2012, 14:50:00

Congrats SoF for a good job:)
And well, SoL did nice also.

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Sep 27th 2012, 11:27:29

Originally posted by Pride:
Not the end of the set just the highest # achieved during the set. :) (incase one of us wars)

Deal


Ah, ok:) Highest number. We dont plan a very late war:)

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Sep 27th 2012, 10:45:16

Originally posted by Pride:
How about country names.

If we lose you make your country names honoring MD if we lose we'll do the same. :)


Agreed.
But not we, just me:) I`m not president, i just peon, so i can make bets only for myself:) But everyone are welcome to join my bet.
So, if MD will have more than RIVAL at the end of reset (by official EE page), i`ll name my country honoring MD:)
If RIVAL has more - you.
And if we will have same members count - its draw.

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Sep 27th 2012, 10:04:53

Well, FA food or something. What you want?

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Sep 27th 2012, 9:34:55

Want to make bet?:)

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Sep 27th 2012, 8:25:42

We need more members to outnumber MD!!! This is urgent!

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Sep 22nd 2012, 17:33:37

Where are you man?

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Sep 19th 2012, 12:03:41

so its good:) You can make new friends by comming to RIVAL:) New friends is always nice, isnt it?

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Sep 19th 2012, 10:56:41

Why not?:) RIVAL has a good social programm also;)

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Sep 18th 2012, 7:35:14

Good war:) Seems SoF will win...