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Rep/casher again. Finished 11 last set w low acres- see if we can push this. Open to all defensive and intelligence

Sure, yes..less risk is maybe a better word- but still odd for someone who is looking to war go a less risky route.

The same players from express play in primary. You are only allowed to hit and multiple tap the bottom of the scores list not the “elites”.

Why do you think that the elites of earth are no longer fluffing in express about being hit? I stopped attacking anyone that was in the top 30.
The only people fluffing are the bottom of the scores list noobs now. And if you look at my last war partners they were all the smallest humans on the server….

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I hit right up to the top 10- and several players I hit earlier in the round below top 10 are in the top 10 now. There is zero fluffing for a LG. If you RoR or attempt to farm, there's more chatter but I don't think it's fluffing, moreso talking smack as a short war breaks out. You seem less a fan of your war when you have to hit good players who are prepared to hit back, which has been my whole point about express. You like baiting unsuspecting players who aren't playing a war style..but when you have the option to farm noobs or go after a real target in primary- you differ to noobin because it's easier.

yes- i did see in your other post just above after i wrote my post. but maybe with this additional discussion, and Slag's (small) interest....something could be considered for the future. I would absolutely play that server- i think a lot of people would if its a short set and straight chaos...that you are prepared for. it would be a lot of fun.

Yes Cath- i think i have come to a better point to understand Super wanting a war, and have tried to find a fair solution so we can all play our preferred style in the same server. Im not sure if he is willing to accept that solution- although it would provide him exactly what he wants. otherwise continuing to farm and bait players is just that. starting a war with someone who isnt playing that style and isnt properly prepared for his immediate AB blast.

I dont see why we cant all get along. netters net, Super can war with whatever willing participants he can find in the forum each set and we can all continue happily. Super- just make a new thread looking for war partners, exchange country info and go for it!

Another fun idea could be a war server- setup similar to express in timeframe/turns but solely for war where its just straight anarchy. im not opposed to war- it can be fun and a server like that could be a blast to play- so long as that is the expectation and you build a country accordingly and the goal is more to get out alive...

Metaphorically speaking- i can go grab a shotgun, but so can you because were all in pretend metaphoric-land :)

I have acknowledged that. All I said was, instead of continuing to ruin others sets, who play a different style than you but in the same server- go ahead and find a sparring partner ahead of time and setup your war with them. You can do exactly what you want, and it will be even more fun/,competitive for you because it's a fair fight with someone who is properly setup to hit back. We- the other 90% can continue to play our preferred style...in the same server, without negatively affecting each other. What don't you understand about that??
And if you can't find anyone who wants to war, while I know it ultimately means you'll continue your same tactics...also further proves the point that there is less interest in your style than netting. I've acknowledged your not wrong based on the explicit rules of the game, I've just attempted to explain the majority perspective of everyone else.

Give it a shot- If you find a partner, great! If not then I guess we'll expect your continued harassment and defiance of what every single other player wants. I am not saying that to be crass or to make a dig, I'm just being blunt and honest in the basic conclusions that could be drawn from either scenario. I just ask that before your randomly bait players, try and find your war here in the forum and engage from there.

I still don't see your reasoning for why you follow other server politics...but not express. You could find your war partner and have the war you want without affecting others who arent looking for that. If we read that description and interpret it by the letter, you aren't even following. Your not building anything...you build a small country just big enough to war and then you look for someone to take down...not for your growth and "building your empire" but just for the harassment of knowing you ruined someone's else's set. You keep it just large enough so you can withstand any attacks and so you can continue the fight, but not at all to the point of building anything substantial or to "outpace the economies of other countries". We have had this discussion for weeks now and not once have you provided any defensible argument. Each way you attempt to turn to skew your points, I offer legit compromise and fair workarounds you refuse to accept. You offer none of your own..just clinging to the idea of causing chaos for the sake of chaos.

Correct- noob in that i recently returned after 20ish years away. but i dont make rainbows- Koh :)

And thank you again Super, for re-explaining what you had just explained in your previous post about server styles. I responded with what i thought was a decent compromise in an honest attempt to have us resolve this issue. I have also NEVER suggested you take your life. i have suggested i feel bad for your family and thrown other various insults back and forth with you, but never suggested suicide in RL. i am aware others have and you are clearly pooling me in the same group of people, as we are all frustrated with your tactics. to be clear- last set i was running 50/50 jet to turret ratio and still got hit so its not about going all jet. i also didnt whine about that, as it was a single hit unlike your provoking attempts.

Your response now, or lack of trying to work together at all in finding a compromise shows you are definitively just trying to ruin people's set for no reason other than the joy it brings you. As Cathankins referenced in his last thread, if it is widely known someone is intentionally not playing a server as intended maybe hopefully one day that information can help sway change with the dev's/mods so this is no longer a talking about or continuing issue.

I don't have that answer for you- but what I can say is in your description of each of those servers you give 'credit' to the politics of those servers and it sounds like wherever you try and play, no one is interested or thrilled about your tactics. All I and all anyone in express have asked you...is to do the same. I honestly have no clue about any other potential conflicts you have raised in those arenas. Maybe a lot, maybe nothing...in any case you seem to acknowledge here and now that they each have their own preferred styles of play and I am assuming that your bringing them up means you respect or acknowledge them enough to abide by them. That's all were trying to do here. Same exact concept, everything I've talked about in express is about rhe politics and preferred accepted style- if you can play by other server practices, why not this one? And again, regardless...just go find the few other suiciders and have your war games with them if thats what you want. I don't think anyone has any issue with that. You can play your style and challenge yourself to compete with those who accept, and the rest of us can play our rounds unhindered the way we have been trying. It allows us all to enjoy whatever style we're going for...what's not good about that compromise/idea? If what you want is truly a 1:1 war...that should check all the boxes. Unless there's more to it and you just want to ruin random players sets who are playing a totally different style and thus cannot or will not engage which then allows you to continue your assault all weekend. I truly don't see any negatives in this suggestion. We all get what we want and none of us are distracted by the other.

It's not about farming the bots, it's about playing the market- maximizing your gains and playing a proper strategy given the number of other countries playing similar govt styles. Is ir a better farm set, better tech set..better to cash or to commie...the war is just that, the simple predictable trade off of missiles and AB...mix in a few ss or ps, maybe some gs when desperate but ultimately it's just a back and forth of whoever can out purchase/build more of the given force used in the attack. It leads nowhere tho esp when both are planning and expecting the war- no one is gonna win that because the sole focus is either jumping ahead or recouping to defend against the next 50 turns...I'm not against your desire for war, and I do find it fun in other non netting servers where you don't know who is gonna hit you or how often and its a balance between making those hits and escaping with minimal losses to continue the next day- its just in a primarily netting server when most are playing for NW- provoking wars by hitting the top 10 whole waiting for the retal so you can attempt to finish them off- or at least ruin whatever work they put in to that point in an honest attempt to play as the vast majority do- is cheap and frustrating.
Like I said, I get your interest in war..have at it. Just find someone amenable to it and have your 4 day battle Royale together without simultaneously ruining what other players are trying to do. We can and should both be able to play our given styles in the same server without affecting each other negatively. And hey- if you want that war, let me know when you find a target and maybe I'll go commie or heavy oil farm to make my gains while you have your fun.

Haha love the troll- i almost expected a RickRollin when i clicked that link :)

Or...if you comprehended anything i have said over the last several weeks...or ANYTHING anyone else has said to you countless other times previously- the player/politics have generally used this server as a netting server and not a war server. therefore im not playing a war style in my countries and am looking to follow those guidelines and experiment and net. also, as stated in my previous post- i am not scared of a war with you rather, im not interested in one because its too simple and boring to crank warfare/SDI amass defensive military and store turns to trade AB blows back and forth.

Its clear we will never see eye to eye- and that is perfectly fine. im only trying to ask, if you want to war in a server where almost no one plays that style- find someone ahead of time and setup your rules of engagement. but dont go around ruining other people's set when they are clearly playing a different style than you and it is common knowledge they are following the generally accepted guidelines within this server. Have your war, just find someone else who wants it as well you guys can go play in the corner- it appears that bayrock, or someone pretending to be bayrock is back. maybe you two can get together and be pals while the rest of us continue to do what we came do to.

everyone wins....

Hahahahahah- or not. its too easy to crank warfare and build defensive military in prep for an impending war vs playing the markets based on player base and maximize NW with far more variables at play. im gonna stick with the latter for now :)

Super- maybe your short-term memory needs a refresher from our discussions a couple weeks ago. oh look, i found a post you made basically espousing your greatness. (maybe you didnt use the exact words i did- so i apologize for not taking them verbatim but have a look)


"John you sound like a an idiot with your stupid mommy insults.

As far as I am concerned you are a nobody. I can't find your ass on the all time leaders board which has 98 ranks. Maybe when you crack the top 98 for express you can flap your gums ok?

Until then I will continue to war idiots who break GDI like you by multie tapping me. Also while we war and I kick your butt in this war game; I will continue to amass NW + land and keep adding to my already commanding lead on the all time stats list for Express.....

Total Networth
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1 SuperFly $10,142,145,410
2 mac23 $8,423,962,825
3 VivaNick $5,907,342,348
4 Getafix $5,605,874,212
5 BaDonkaDonks $5,270,585,325
6 ebert00 $5,249,990,028
7 beerdrinker75 $5,112,025,534
8 Gogy $4,661,978,795
9 MADMARK $4,408,407,828
10 MountainYeti $4,261,941,598

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1 SuperFly 11,611,633
2 BaDonkaDonks 6,410,023
3 MADMARK 6,089,033
4 Gogy 5,719,282
5 mac23 5,447,966
6 RLacroix 5,312,595
7 VivaNick 5,230,524
8 outlaw 4,907,688
9 MHowar9516 4,792,705
10 maj1 4,554,701

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1 SuperFly 260
2 mac23 217
3 VivaNick 206
4 Getafix 151
5 beerdrinker75 138
6 ebert00 127
7 CX LaE 119
8 MHowar9516 116
9 MountainYeti 115
10 ingle 101


so in summary, you are a no name wannabe flapping his gums to a player who has been in express since day one and who will continue to play express long after you are gone...."

my response to that at the time wasnt in saying you are the greatest, it was saying you merely play more and for longer than anyone else- which doesnt necessarily equate to skill. I am still saying that now, as you rarely crack top 50 in a server full of bots and just continue to try and find unsuspecting players who will retal your landgrabs so that you can immediately launch every single turn you have saved up at them. That is not a fair or competitive war- its just destroying someone for the fun of it, which anyone COULD do but most of us are not interested in that style of play on this server- so a simple retal is usually what occurs to send a message.

Again- i have no interest in a war, thats the exact opposite reason i play this server. If you want a war- im hopeful you can put the message out and find an agreeable suitor ahead of time instead of continuing to ruin others' round.

I chirp because again, you ruined someone's set by baiting them into a war they had little intention of fighting. You hit, they retal you go on a 50 turn AB blast. What is fair or competitive about that? I also chirp because you claim to be the greatest ever in express, but another set not hitting 10m, even 5m.

I don't seek you out because like the other 90% of players on the server, I'm trying to net and experiment-and have a lot left to learn so I continue to use my time accordingly.

Hey super- can't help but notice yet another set where you baited someone into an unfair war and finished without cracking 3m...i wish I could be that cool and still claim #1 rank on a server. Still waiting for you to either play legit (as the larger group style/politics has intended) or actually challenge a fair war instead of baiting an unsuspecting single retal that you turn into an AB orgy. Impressive you went GS this set and varied things up a bit

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Cath- I agree we both could/should have been better. But im done trying to have this conversation. After being double tapped I responded w 4 ss grabs back just to get him to back off. Since then he has continued to AB spy op and send missiles very few hours. I haven't responded once so I'm not sure what the joy is in this, other than what we already know. He's just getting off ruining other players set. The set was ruined yesterday, feel free to continue- but is this not the same as hitting bots at this point? Exactly what you supposedly rail against Super?

Super- I would wish you a happy father's day, but I'm quite certain your impotent ass has no offspring. The world is a better place because of it. To all the other real dads out there- have a great day. But Super, continue jerking off in your moms basement, hoping one day some woman might find you mildly amusing enough to let you anywhere near her.

Also- back to your accolades, looking at your last 30 sets you only have 3 sets that almost hit 40m. Absolutely nothing impressive for someone who claims top rank. Most were devastatingly low showings. But keep on thinking you're God's gift.

I didn't start this thread. I didn't start the war nor the argument. I'm merely responding, clarifying and defending myself- not that my actions need defending. Everyone here is well aware of your antics..so continue to think your high and mighty, but the dude who has played since day 1, holds every record and never misses a set sounds more like the basement living pimple faced troll to me.

Congratulations you've found absolutely nothing in life over the last 25 years to occupy any amount of your time other than warring in a non-war server. Super huge accomplishment. You don't see my ranks because I only just began playing again after 20 years....again, pointing to your all time best ranks in a server not designed to be played the way you cheaply Play it is not an accomplishment or anything to brag about. Move out of your moms basement, make a real life friend- because you told me earlier you have none..and maybe start a life you failure to thrive troll. Nothing about the way you play this sever is impressive or to be proud of.

Hey gerdler-
Appreciate your response and thoughts. I've never complained about the mods and think you guys do a good and fair job in your roles. I am just tired of continuously not being able to finish the shortest of sets without someone hitting because that think it's funny.

Super- you may be getting a kick out of all this, and I'm sure your panties are dripping still wet. As good as you think you are (anyone can lay low and bait someone into a war) you're not nearly as skilled or amazing as your no toothed gf (mommy) tells you every night before she tucks you into her bed. If you were half as good, I say prove it next set without taking easy hits on players who don't defend in a bot server for obvious reasons. See if you can actually hit top 5. And if you wanna war- then let's do that in any other server where I Play accordingly.

Still at it. Another 3 ABs since last post. If you clench real hard it might last an extra 20 seconds. Seriously at this point what's the point. You've ruined a set and I'm not retal or interested in hitting back. Are you that small fluffed you can't help yourself?? "Oooh another 200 buildings gahhh gahh gahhhh I'm just came on myself"

Gonzo if I were here to war, in war game. Is that not allowed?

I think that you should hand write a strongly worded letter to the manager and owner of the game and request a server with no attacking between players
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It's commonly understood express is anything but a pvp server. Sure- is the mechanism to hit other players locked, admittedly no. But it's also fairly clear that the intended purpose is a quick round to experiment and trial netting strategies. If your are too much a dumbfluff to understand that- my apologies to your parents and any other significant members of your family. You are still hitting me hours after the install skirmish, which by the way- I've don't nothing since the 4 retal hits for your unprovoked attack in a non pvp server. I don't see an issue with that. But as soon as you stock 20 turns your still skirmishing like a b*tch. If i wanted to war, I wouldn't have merely broke sdi, I would have finished you in the same stroke. That was not my intention so enjoy your engorged viagara hard on you pu$$y and keep hope alive that you can vote trump in another 2 years. You clearly hold on to the past and think your misperception of the world is the only view that matters- despite all evidence to the contrary.

I'm not talking coordination- I'm talking using the same unwritten rules of chaos. Just abnoxi9usly hit everyone and ruin it for everyone the same way these same 5 countries play every set

I hit back at croomer. I was also hit by hanfluff twice earlier

I never farm anyone. This is just for netting and experimenting. But every single set I get farmed because I actually play well and get big. Makes for an east target. How bout you me cath and 2pod nuke everyone who doesn't identify themselves. We can play the same f'd game those losers do. No coordination- just mass nuking so they can't even get off th3 ground

Next set- Any legit player who doesn't wanna be destroyed send me you info. Otherwise I'm nuking the rest of these fluff fu*k$ who's only mission is to ruin it for anyone else

for all the bot hitting- they need a 'Sloppy Second's'

Lot of Rep/Casher buying up all those jets n turrets this set.

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Too many poodle haters last set, i couldnt quite sell enough of my puppy mill for another top 5. Happy with 10 tho...nice set all!!

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He actually sounds a bit like the bots he's railing against. You sure he isn't in Russia or China AI spamming lol

Well, i suppose that makes me feel a little better for not missing the opportunity

in all honesty though- if you dont count the pre-draft trades and acquired players, and solely look at who was drafted- its hard not to give the jets some credit on this one. even taking the trades into account, the jets round 1/2 is hard to compare to this year.

no matter- its all about the motherfluffin COIN TOSS lol. also- 13 seconds is so much longer than we give it credit for- just ask the wife....3 kids later :)
BILLSMAFIA, JOSHALLENISMYDADDY, STEFONISMYSTEPDADDY- SUPERBOWL BOUND!!!

i actually had the option pop up a couple weeks ago when firing off a round of missiles. it seemed after many attacks back and forth, in the war room drop down, bottom option- only after selecting the attack target- which was the same ongoing battle, that 'declare war' did actually appear. unfortunately i didnt select it- so im not sure if it would have actually processed or allowed the declaration. but it certainly appeared to be an option. unless i happened upon a glitch

it appears some psychopath has put an order in at $100 and cleaned the market right out. not sure what type of profit anyone is making buying bushels at that price- unless the goal was to force-stop an already very short round.

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thats sounds like a private errrrr personal problem right there :)

i think it may have also had something to do with those LG's being daily- 5 days in a row. Enough to ruin the round in terms of a meaningful finish. The next best option, especially in the eyes of Pootin (Putin)- is to go nuclear.

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