Of course not. Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, however atrocious and eventually useless, they were actually legit war actions.

Fooglmog, 9/11 IS part of the current events. (Sorry about the "flame bait" part.)

Is this a flame bait? The differences between a natural disaster and 9/11 are rather obvious and it's really a shame that you can't/won't see them. For the record, 65 years later people are still talking about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Also, leave the media out of it. They're just selling whatever crap that their target market demands. Obviously Aljazeera and ABC/NBC/whatever US network have different audience. And to answer your question, which I believe it's rhetorical since you've already answered yourself, you have the right to choose what news channel you watch:

Hmm, unless the set unexpectedly ends right now and not in 60 hours, those numbers are already met... Do you know something we don't know? :P

(Omitting rock and roll and classical music concerts)
Joe Zawinul
Chick Corea
Duke Ellington Orchestra

This sentence is neither true nor a paradox
is equivalent to
(This sentence is not true) and (this sentence is not a paradox)
This sentence is not true = paradox, thus
This sentence is a paradox and this sentence is not a paradox
:D

Mmmmkay, then what's wrong with
1x = 0.999...
10x = 1x * 10 = 9.999....
10x - 1x = 9.999... - 1x = 9.999... - 0.999... Blahblahetcetc

Amidoinitryte?!?!!1one?

I know that kindegarden arithmetics is magik and it is a feat to do it "properly" but what's wrong with 5x-1+1=9+1 or 5x-1x=9-1x?

+10% readiness regen or +10% regen rate? Because it doesn't make much sense to gain +100% readiness after 10 turns even for the first bonus, let alone +500% for 3 points.

Well, technically it was a FOP and they both proceeded to FS Poland...

MuckClient should work in Windows 7 just like in Vista (run as administrator). I haven't tried it though.

Define generator as well. Anyway, random number generators picking from a finite set do exist; the simplest of them is coin flipping (picks from "head,tail" set.) Dice rolling are not far more complicated and offer larger sets.

f(bobby) = bobby^a
f' = a * bobby?

Edit: spoiler, don't read "original post"

The probability that 3 dudes are either mutual friends or mutual strangers is 100%. In BobbyATA's example, 3 can can be friends, totally strangers (a bit awkward considering that there are not many people who would invite two random guys from the street at his birthday party but not impossible) or John can invite his buddy Joe who comes with his newest girlfriend Sue (neither mutual friends nor mutual strangers). Not 100% guaranteed that the conditions are met.

(Not sure if this was a spoiler or a hint)

0 = !1
Fact. ;)

You mean that you have enough time to spy untaggeds, during a war, but you need like 3-4 weeks before you decide that he's a threat and kill it? Because it looks to me that he wasn't a restart at all, let alone a Laf restart. He wasn't ever tagged Laf nor PDM at any given time so that can't be it.

Ohay Dagga!

That's a good idea! Add 50% of your tech too.

Seriously though. Maybe my "30 turns" was a bit exaggerated but 3 turns only is by far worse. There has to be a penalty for being able to recall your stuff in an instant and 3 turns is ridiculous. Heck, you get 12 bonus turns per day for doing nothing.

Make it 30 turns. AND 20% units/tech points/bushels/barrels lost. That would be fair.

If you log on in the morning and put some stuff on the market for some overoptimistic prices, you just logon later during your lunch break, see that it's not going to fly and you call them back and try again with no punishment whatsoever. Previously if you screwed the market game you had to wait 48 hours (plus the en route time) before you could have another go. 3 turns as it is now is way too cheap.

SOL is always ranked too high and you claiming that a second grade alliance kicked your butt in a war last reset doesn't really put your alliance in a better spot...

Back to topic. Well done EVO, congratulations!

Well, we won ANW 2 resets ago, last reset we were at war so that doesn't really count and if we win ANW this one technically we win ANW back to back.

That being said it is a very close race. You guys did a great job and from 10 million NW 2 days ago you managed to close the gap to just 2 million and there are still 30 hours to go. It's gonna be a very close race.

I too concur. Either get rid of it completely or make the cost like 20-40 turns or so.

Frontpage doesn't exist anymore, it's been replaced by a thing called Expression. I haven't tried it but I expect it to be rather similar.

Anyway, if you expect that your web designing career will be limited to creating a little site for your girl then you can download the trial version from http://www.microsoft.com/expression/. You'll have 60 days to play with it, more than enough methinks.

Don't you think that it will be a bit wiser if you change only one thing per reset, not more? If/when it goes fubarr-ed how can you be sure that the cause was the military tech or 2bn removal or a cummulative effect of the both?

land:land

I will play the 800 turrets per acre ratio strategy next reset. And the 3 (three) defensive allies. I'll be invulnerable! This reset I only have two... :(

What are you talking about? Both the grab and the retal *create* land, by ghost acres. Doesn't matter if it is a country/country or alliance retal.

Yup.

Quite so, quite so.

But how allance-wide retals prevent land creation, by the way?

Grabbing bots is like masturbation: it might provide some relief during difficult times but it doesn't come even close to the real thing. So no, not even "official" bots.

However your second part of the idea has merit. Ok, country country retals but nuke retals are also acceptable. How's that?

Yes, that's what I said. Bottomfeeding, while the most profitable grabbing tactics, wasn't easy in alliance server because the alliance-wide retals and intensive farmage of countries who couldn't retal. You wouldn't bottomfeed a "will retal" tag. Implementation of a country/country retals will promote bottomfeeding to new levels because "will retal" will have no more meaning whatsoever. Topfeeding and midfeeding will remain unchanged because country-country retals do happen anyway in these cases.

PS: bottomfeeding was easy on alliance server too, when there were about 15k countries each reset. (Ok, 75% of them were bots but that's another story)

I don't quite understand what you are trying to say. In every earth server bottomfeeding is the most viable strategy. You hit someone who you are sure he can't hit you back. Alliance server was NOT promoting bottomfeeding. It is the other way around; you just can't bottomfeed someone belonging to an alliance because you know that someone in his tag will hurt you. This is what some are trying to change, by the looks of it.

I fixed it. You're welcome :P

Quite right. But that begs for a different question: why do you really want country/country retals in the first place? What's the point? Let's get back to my example, #581. If he were to retal my 10k acres 3mNW country he'll need a bunch of FA packages besides OA's. Each FA package takes 3 turns which are totally wasted not even explored or cashed. Wouldn't have been much lucrative if one of the FA senders used 1 turns to spy me and 2 turns to retal my butt for about 5 times more land that I got? Or if I didn't hit him in the first place?

The war analogy is totally irrelevant. If you're at war you're not going to win a top 10 NW finish anyway and if you died chances are that you're going to die 3-5 times more during the war, FA or not.

This is beside the point. You and Pang already proved that grabbing is not at all morally wrong. And we're talking about alliance wide retals here.

This might probably be the next step in a couple resets ;)

And guess what, players DO interact with others more if the alliance retals are allowed. One "player interaction" is guaranteed followed by another "player interaction". The OP's original idea was that he can grab someone without him being "interacted", back otherwise this is totally useless. Actually it IS useless anyway. Country-country will have no impact whatsoever on those guys who know how to play and grab well. (or not, depending from where you're looking it). Mid/topfeedings are usually retaled country-country anyway. This idea might only be helping clueless players who only know how to build countries by bottomfeeding.

PS: BobbyAta: "either sign this or we go to war with u". I have no words to describe that! :D You know, if you're so desperate to gain any parcel of land by any possible means then you and your alliance ultimate goals are to netgain. Guess what, after a war noone wins and warring Omega isn't really a walk in a park. Not sure who will give up after 2 resets.... Archaic is wise: "Pacting should be to prevent war not prevent grabbing."

Yes, a 60 countries alliance A can still offer some sort of protection against a 30 countries tag B. As it is now tag B offers tag protection for his small guys against attacks from tag A because at least half of them can retall. With the proposed policy changes tag B can do nothing more than go to war, die and screw both tags' resets in the process.

It has been proposed by some that multiple hits on same country and/or alliance will be subject to alliance-wide retals anyway and in my example I said that I'd hit 581 once.

Of course, Laf can bottomfeed as well and screw my alliance's little guys. In fact everyone will be bottomfeeding everyone because there's nothing to stop them if they're doing it right.

Being grabbed is part of the game and perfectly ok. No problem.

But let's take an example. I started my country in day 1, it's a good country and I have enough resources to retal everyone in the whole server who grabs me. No big deal, actually since the ghost acres are back most probably both me and the attacker will benefit from it. Now look at this country: MPS4LIFE (#581) - LaFamiglia. He started his country on August 13. He is at 0.5mNW. No DR and at 4500 acres it makes a good bottomfeeding target. If I were to hit him, once, how do you expect him to retal me in 48 hours? And 3-5 other similar countries from different alliances who have the same thoughts as I have?

The whole country/country policy is wrong. If you topfeed/midfeed big countries who obviusly put some effort it does not apply at all since they will want to take their own retals themselves as they do care for their land and want it back. Instead everyone will be happily bottomfeeding the small guys like #581 who can't retal themselves and will be screwed.

What do you mean by "improved grabbing environment"? Bottomfeed whatever small country who can't hit you back and ban alliance-wide retals? This is ridiculous.

ooh, I can answer that. It's not the fact that I lost some 500 acres that pisses me off. Is that xEVILALLIANCEx got those. If my oGOODALLIANCEo can't get them back, because I'm too lazy or retarded to retal, I'll just delete my country and never play again. It's like I'm giving my friends' enemies a double advantage: one, I make a lousy country that lowers their average NW and two give their direct opponents a head start. And I don't want to hurt my friends' efforts. As I said, alliance server is mostly about alliance, not individuals.

No. New players have no idea what they're doing when they first make a country. I remember my first one hehe. They have no idea of what the game was meant to be played and get pissed off before someone tells them what the game is meant to be played. (Sit back and hit the explore button is advanced technique, by the way.)

Let me reiterate. This is "alliance" server. If you're a new player you'll be untagged. And farmed 15 times a day while you're untagged. Then you will join an alliance because you start reading the forums and you learn that an alliance offers you the so called "tag protection". Tag protection means that the alliance is protecting you. Tag protection does not mean that you won't be hit 15 times per day by the same country but being hit "once" by 15 different countries is ok. New players will feel cheated by false advertising.

And let's be serious. If you start a country 4-5 days after the reset started, or even worse playing untagged for that amount of time even if you started in day 1 and you will NEVER have a country able to retal your own hits. In 48 hours. Especially if you're hit multiple times per day. As I said, leave the country/country retals for non alliance servers and leave alliance be as it is.

By the way. I don't really understand that fascination for land. This game is not about getting 100k acres of land. It is about doing better than everybody else given the available sets of circumstances. Like build a good country and get rank 1 in NW. So what that the land is hard to get? What's the difference between getting rank 1 with a 150mNW country on 15k acres and getting the same rank 1 with 350mNW country on 35k acres of land? Guess what, the land is scarce for everyone. You don't get a badge for that.

It does, but only if your current food and cash can't get you through the available turns. It doesn't if you have them covered. Not sure how accurate and useful that information, or lack of it is, because the old message said something like "assuming no growth etc". So if no warning message shows up and you think it's safe it's probably safer to play just about 90% of your turns and check again.

You'll lose even more players. I suspect that most of you overestimate the "dedication" of the already small player base. A large part of it are actually old and bored veterans who just logon, hit explore/build and logout 2 minutes later. They would simply not be bothered to retal and if the only alternative is to let the attacker get away with free land they'll just quit.

Also if you are seriously thinking of enforcing such a policy it surely removes yet another important aspect of this game which actually still makes it attractive, and I quote: "as we keep saying, running a tag that can deter retals is an important part of this server". Besides, if you want only country/country retals there're always primary, tournament and express servers. Slagpit's list accurately describes how an alliance helps their players perform well in the above mentioned servers. Leave alliance alone.

Confirmed.

Rufus,
Minister of Nuke TheoSqua.

Nice job with the news and sorting and stuff. Well done. But I also got this:

19.1 hours ago
You sold 0 Bushels for $0 to a standing order.
5,000,000 Bushels remain for sale.

This is.... exciting? Worth mentioning? :D

Oldest.

Yeah yeah. '7 out of every 10 people have heard of Omega'. Who/what is that phone you're talking about, eh?

A phone? Don't make us laugh.

That would have been an insult. Apple? Dude, we have history behind us! Omega was the choice of NASA and the first on the Moon in 1969. Omega was the official Time Keeping device of the 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics. James Bond allied us since 1995; other famous Omegans are John F. Kennedy, Prince William, George Clooney, Nicole Kidman and Cindy Crawford.

;)

That was like SOL vs LCN/Omega war. Big balls, big mouth, pain in the ass follows.

Also, Imag has an totally amazing 19 HPK against SOL!