I've made the mistake of being bated into playing again before -_-

Just no.

This gerdler fellow sounds like farmland.

But when I'm tier 1 and the next best tier is 6th-7th, how is it competition were I to play again?

Evo still suck

#Evo#Suck#foreversucky#Oldnews

Can't believe this game is still going though!

Evo suck.

Who cares you're all fluff anyway.

Fine I admit it. I aided sov.

Pang you even admitted at the time he likely did it, when 0 people know i'm playing, and my country gets leaked, there aren't many options really.

I'm running away by continuing to reply, note taken.
I dropped 20 names, you just happened to be one of the ones i was legitimately calling fluff as opposed to the ones i was joking about.
You haven't asked me any questions unless you consider "who gives a fluff about a country number" a question directed at me, despite it coming across as rhetorical. Which if it was, my answer would be, no one unless it results in getting suicided. That said, it's not a hypothetical question so my question to you would be, when writing on the forums, do you deliberately post random sentences as a troll or do you actually believe what you're saying to be true? Because if it's a troll it's top notch because you've built a persona literally over a decade that makes the troll believable hence making it a good troll. But personally I think it's far more likely a continuation in the decade of bollocks you spew that is either just wrong or makes no sense so as not to be able to even begin discerning if it is wrong or not.




I said that if I netgained untagged the admins would give my number out, as has happened in the past. To be honest I dont know how much weight i even hold to that assertion given how little anyone cares about the game anymore, but the one time I did I got screwed, so that's the only information I have to go off.

Since reading and comprehension doesn't appear to be your strong suit I feel like addressing any more posts to you is likely a waste of time.

You say you want an honest discussion but continue to lie hence why I edited out a paragraph I'm not even going to reply to anymore since what's the point? You literally haven't spoken of any real events except to deny ones that actually took place. Real honest discussion...

You're replying to a thread that is quite literally about me, if your referencing other people, say so. Or just keep slandering me behind the cover of referring to groups of players.

Um ok? I don't remember ever suggesting anything about attack formulas that was wrong, dr formulas were wrong which I told you and provided evidence of but you know... why would you listen to me it's not like I knew anything about the game or anything.

There aren't really many different types of cheating, there are things within the game rules and things outside the game rules. There is unethical gameplay i.e. sending spies into other alliances, and things of that sort granted that was once common place again it was something I never did. If you think my time playing the game was destructive by positioning laf to the in the best possible place then I'd say you and me have differing views on what the game is.

My douchyness was political and grew my alliance (we went from what 4-5th? best alliance to the top alliance in the game both netgaining and warring, without anyone really close)
Your (and anon/kj can get grouped into this as well) douchyness was out of being sour with no thought to the impact it would have on your alliance, and took evo from a 70 odd member alliance with a relatively high standard to a tag that I wouldn't trust to beat a spam tag in a war.

You really want to argue I was destructive by warring you once and then giving you a three reset pact? Granted I ran a few more wars after that, but they were wars you got yourselves in while I was completely away from politics, that was just for the enjoyment of hearing your whine.

The people that destroyed the game were the ones thrust into leadership due to a lack of alternatives that didn't know how to run an alliance, and those that while capable were too bull headed to compromise for the benefit of their alliances. At least from when I last played LaF/SoF was the last power coalition, the fact that they ran the game for so long without much competition reflects badly on the people leading the rest of the server rather than the policies laf/sof undertook.

If fairness I probably owe you an apology over that seeing as I went off on you in defense of them for what turned out to be true.

Still denying I ran a network of suiciders? I was never even accused of that before, but for what it's worth I never ran a network of suiciders against pdm or evo. Dont get me wrong I was told of the odd suicider hitting before they did but I assume thats just because people knew I didnt like you so it was a way to brag.

It doesn't matter, my whole post stated it doesn't matter anymore hence why i asked why you bother lying about it anymore. I'm more than open about how i messed with evo and essentially turned you from neutral to enemy because i didn't like your leaders and to avoid more damaging wars with ix, wog, sol and sof. It's been what 8-9 years since I was don? They are just funny stories now rather than having any impact on the game.

To be fair to doll, im not certain he was, but reignz yes.

Realistically the reason I dont rank dragon is because dragon performed against fluff players. Being a breaker against war alliances isnt that hard... If dragon had a standout war performance against people like eug, chun, xin then I would have ranked him higher, but the fact is vs those guys he would never be considered a breaker all he did was wall, which granted his walling was top notch, but as far as wars go you can be a finisher all reset, you're not winning your alliance anything. I think given enough focus and exposure to top tier players he would have matched them, but he just didnt have the exposure to know what to improve in SoL and probably never really cared as he seemed pretty content just being the best of the warmongers.

Or maybe you'd rather talk about how you hacked the AT archive to get backdoor access into the database and track who ran what country when rival went from an alliance to untagged suiciding.

I'm part of that group? Name anything I ever did that was outside of the games rules, literally anything. I plotted and manipulated the same way that anyone did, but the difference between me and you was I never cheated.

You want to talk about stuff, lets talk about why you were went from head fr to excluded from all leadership discussions when I became don. How many countries were you running in e2025 under singapore ip addresses along with reignz and doll under the guise of safe list? My memory says 17 but I could be out a few.

It's been a lifetime since my beef with you existed, why still bother to even lie about it anymore it's not like it has any impact on current game play. I know what you did, you know what you did, pang knows what you did, qzjul knows what you did, granted of those only i accused you of using database access to give out my country number and pang admitted you likely did it but wouldn't take any action regardless.

I dont deny knowing about suicides on evo before they happened, i never sponsored them in spite of "proof" being posted that I aided someone by nukevil? (I want to say nuke though it could have been that fluff ex ix then rival guy sanjivaiafsdaf or whatever his name was?) which when proved his math didnt add up simply suggested that I was so good at hiding it that I changed my nw change to 0 (which granted if I did sponsor a suicide I would be that good as to not have a nw change but still could up with a better explanation than that), but when people told me you were going to be suicided I gave 0 fluffs.

Forgo for rank 1! I'm joining the bandwagon.



I honestly don't even remember anything about that reset except that enshula had a good country and everyone else sucked. That said a brief look at your country op says your country was typical good t3 contending techer at turn 1200, but nothing to write home about. Still, enjoy that failed destock for old times sake!

From memory rockman ran harmful opps eos on qzjul to cost him a t10? He got mad and opened up country news of all countries to the public as a backlash and way to prove rockman did it, we all lol'd at evo.

It was the mod-abuse that previously had been slagpit's forte that was repeatedly ignored with no action being taken which is essentially the same as encouraging it to continue, I suppose it wasn't technically cheating though as they make the rules.

There are certainly aspects of the game that rockman is better than me and most people at. I think there were a few people like Xin, enshula, rockman, TC to an extent, that were significantly better making small optimizations than almost anyone i knew.

Like developing the cash start up that changed tax every other turn to maximize income/pop by turn 120 or whatever it was. Rockman is just very modest and never really bothered grabbing, without grabbing you dont get top ranks, that's not to say you don't have the most efficient country though.

Ego and choosing not to be modest are two different things. There's an element of truth and an element of trolling to most of what I post on AT, isn't the latter what AT is for?

And for those of us that played long enough to remember when you actually played and quite openly claimed to be gods gift to FR it's really quite amusing to reference my ego. My assertions are based on legitimate understanding of the game and skill in playing it. I wonder if I'd get banned if I posted what things you did back when you did actually play. I assume I would, don't think you'd be able to take the bruise to your ego.

Oh damn. RIP DD, you'll be sorely missed.

I guess it is debatable, it would be between hao, chun, eug, enshula, xin, bakku, hlw, samxz and me I would say and it's pretty interchangable by reset and what style suited the reset, some had an aggressive risk taking like me some were more about maximizing what you have like enshula. And yes they are all ex laf but at the moment I cant think of a person outside of laf that I ever was concerned about beating me to rank 1, not saying that no one ever got close, just that no one else was consistently good they would just have the odd good reset or some form of aid, free land, etc.

That said the skill level has decreased pretty drastically any newb can fart on a keyboard and get a t10 these days.



As far as all that, you cant antagonize me into playing again, you'd have to be a far better player that i have a actual disdain for to get me to play again, like maybe if pang wanted to netgain against me or slagpit, though neither of them are any good neither I didn't like them more than I don't like you, not to say I don't like you, I don't like you, but I also have not got a clue who you are.
I've won the last 3 times I've netgained, get 5 good players to play and i'd consider playing, right now the only challenge I can legitimately see would be trying to go untagged all set to win, and the admins would just tell everyone that i run the country to get me suicided anyway so what's the point.

P.S.
The following people suck
Pang
Slagpit
Tan (I cant remember if you'd changed your name to something else, but if you have add that name to this list too)
Vic
Lord Travana
Nukevil
Vic (Again)
Forgo
Everyone that ever thought evo were good
Everyone that was ever a leader in evo
Everyone that doesnt know how much of a tool slagpit was (is?)
Vic (Again)
Most of PDM
iScode
Vic (Again)
and Syko_Killa

(I'm sure I missed out a few people, so feel free to add to the list).

fluffing laf and their spreadsheets.

Tripple crown has always been anw,total nw and total members, the three ways which alliances are ranked in game.

In the mean time I'd like to take this time to congratulate myself, for another reset of not playing passing, and still being the best player to have ever played EE.

Congrats.

Nate is bigger than conor but neither should fight 170 unless everyone is fighting at natural weight, that said nate is a bigger 155 than Conor. If you look at nates face after the fight conor has big power, I think it was more that nate was parrying alot of his strikes before they landed because of his reach for conor to land he was winging overhand lefts and catching arm before his punch would land.

For Conor to beat Diaz he has to use his kicking game and only box when nate rushes him. Which is entirely possible for him to do, but he would have to give up trying to win every fight by KO.

I think I'd have Conor as favourite over Franky and Aldo tbh (maybe that's a big of wishful thinking on my part, but if I put money down it would be on Conor), just because franky's chin isnt great, he just recovers fast, but if he gets hit with one clean shot from Conor he's going down.

Honestly I think he'd KO ferguson and alvarez. Ferguson would try and trade with him or go for a roll into a double leg or leg lock and against someone with the reaction speed of conor he'd get ko'd, the guy is in a vulnerable position 50% of the time in his fights, it's just he's unpredictable so people aren't reacting like they should. Dont get me wrong he's exciting to watch, but I dont rate his skill set very highly, I think nermi will mangle him even after two years out. Alvarez is just mediocrity personified, I think pettis just didnt expect him to go all out grind like he did, but if they rematched I'd have pettis all day.

Even RDA, I reckon Conor could KO him, it's just he has to do it quickly because if he grapples at all he's going to the mat, and if it hits the mat he's getting subbed.

Also if Nermi stays healthy long enough to fight for the title, he's gonna smash RDA all over again.

You're aware I'm irish right?
I'm a massive Conor fan, I'm not deluded into thinking he's p4p best or any crazyness like that, but he's engaging, and his stand up is very high level and more than anything it's exciting, the Aldo KO was insanity, I think it's probably KO i've watched the most in my lifetime. If you dont like his antics fair enough, but it's what makes his fights the most watched fights since Lesnar and you cant hate on him making money and growing the sport.

Truthfully I think he can beat anyone at 145. But I also think Aldo and Edger could beat him (though I don't think either of them could stand with him and avoid getting KO'd). At 155 I think he beats half the t10 loses to half of them (nermi would be a horror match up for him). And 170 is just stupid.

All that said, he is one of maybe 2-3? fighters that I want to see no matter who he fights which given how few fights he has in the ufc is pretty impressive.

I'd take vamps and dragon of the early 00's, the rest are tiers 10 and bellow...

And for old times sake, Evo Rasp is especially fluffe.

That's my fee, and when you break that down per day i'm still honestly not sure those 5 minutes a day would be worth it to me.

That aside, without knowing who elders are, or who plays in them, knowing how I ranked players ability, the chances any of them even are on par with tier 9 Vic is not high. And he's tier 9...

There hasn't been 10 decent players playing the game at the same time in over a decade.

Let me introduce myself, I'm SS, the greatest player (yes player, not just netgianer) to ever play ee (bar one or two but lets not talk about them!). I have already done all the above in a 1 set only comeback tour (see link) http://www.earthempires.com/alliance/35/ranks
Additional tour dates are available upon request and sufficient demand shown in the form of ticket sales via paypal, $1200 per reset (Absolute bargin price of $20/day).



Where to begin! I think I need to break down how what you write is perceived by the greater AT audience, as most people here been here for well over a decade.



Translation: We (whoever the machine is?) are fluff.



Translation: I'm a newb, a big'ol newb. Farm me! Farm me!



Translation: I have created a tag called spamtag123, the password is 123. Join us and you can be our head FR! Other positions available include, Head IA, Head of War and Division Leader! Don't delay, join today!



Translation: [internal monologue] I take this game far far too seriously considering no one good plays anymore, maybe I should pay that SS guy money via paypal to teach me and then I can dominate?!?! [/end internal monologue]

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It's actually just occurred to me at the end of all this, that it sounds like you're from LaF. In which case, you should be ashamed of yourself, because you make LaF sound fluff, and without knowing much of its current state i'd still wager it's probably the only alliance left with at least one or two decent players.

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Hi Vamps!

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You are not "a boss". You have never been "a boss". All the laf guys know you will never be "a boss".
You're a ninth tier netgainer that struggles to maintain your ranking in the ninth tier despite having being able to ask all the best netgainers to have ever played the game for advise.

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Na I'm pretty sure by the time I played a reset oil destocking had been around for at least a few resets and I only played once while it's been an option.

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As far as all this trading stuff goes, it's lame as fluff but so is the game these days so I guess it's fitting. That said, hardly anyone good plays anymore anyway so if you're worth your salt, no matter what inter/intra trading anyone else is doing, you can beat them, but then I suppose that goes back to hardly anyone good playing anymore, so actually you need the one or two people that vaguely know what they're doing to stop playing.

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For what it's worth, I quite enjoyed reading this thread. It's nice to see people argue and troll each other on here, whether people agree with it or not, it's what made the game good in the first place.

I won last set without landtrading... And with the exception of enshula (laf), no one was even close.

Landtrading at all is copping out of netgaining competitively, but if people are going to accept it as a form of netgaining, I dont really see why laf should penalise themselves by having to trade with people less skilled so reducing their own gains and thus their own networths, as opposed to everyone else getting to trade with higher skilled players, optimising their gains.

All that said, if I was still leading/playing in laf landtrading at all would be outlawed and most of the alliances on the server would be farm land, there would be wars for reasons, and everyone would be entirely more butthurt. But that's just how I liked to play the game.

And yeah i'm a fluff that plays once every 10-15 resets but at least i'm honest about the state of the server rather than patting people on the back for being fluff.

Because even in the game's hayday 99% of anyone playing in war tags, sucked at warring.

Yeah but, if netgaining is this easy, warring is only going to be easier...

Meh I won without trading and fluffing up more times than I can count.

http://www.earthempires.com/leaderboards?type=13

Considering I've traded once ever, and that was years ago to prove a point the land traders suck, what the actual fluff. And maybe im being a fluff but where are the good netgainers, the game's a joke these days.

I've read a lot of threads on AT over the last 15 odd years that are a damning indictment of the intelligence of people that post on AT, but this might just take the biscuit.

You're not just a racist, you're a fluffing idiot too.

Impossiburrr

Flamey?

If it is flamey, you suck. And if it's not flamey, you still suck.

18/15 23:53:00 Bushels 119,021,476 @ $5 = $595,107,380

how mad is that guy....