...I think Link was being funny?

I am a barbequeing fool. I love to bbq some chicken, some ribs, some everything really.

If you have fresh meat, it cooks better from room temp, so let it sit on the counter starting at lunch time if you are going to make it for dinner.

GMen son!

That is all.

Kicks like a mule. Classic thumbuster to load. Careful putting in the mag, you might lose digits.

Let me post this here so people can tell me what a terrible father I am.

http://www.fredericksburgparent.net/...one/1883-nice-shootin-tex

Yeah, I think I might know Dan a little, but what Donny said. If you are willing to do that in this situation, I am willing to spend my own resources to deliver summary justice.

Jimmy Kraut (named after my brother)

Getr a head of red cabbage, some apples and onions, some pork chops,, and get to work.

Dice the cabbage. Put it in a pot with 3 (or so) cups of cider vinegar and a roughly half measure of water. Add plenty of mustard powder. Stir and let simmer.

Meanwhile, sautee some diced onions and apples, preferably granny smith, with butter. Herbsi/spices can be added to taste here, I like a little bit of cinnamon and a very little bit of cardamom.

When the sauteeing is done, add the onions and apples to the cabbage. Next sautee some mushrooms in butter, no other seasoning. The mushrooms are going to go in some gravy.

The mushrooms aren't necessary, except I like mushroom gravy and fresh mushrooms make it better.

Boil some water for egg noodles. Add the noodles when the meal is almost ready. This ish takes a lot of time to make, don't expect to be ready in the time it takes water to boil!

The pork chops should be pan fried (basically sautéed also) while the cabbage mixture is simmering. I put a little bit of salt on the chops before I put them in the pan, and maybe some pepper, but that's it. Feel free to season it more, but bear in mind the flavors already present.

When the chops are nearly cooked, dump most of the cabbage mix on top of them in the pan. Let it simmer that way for a few minutes, until the chops are cooked enough to serve (in America, medium rare chops are the new normal).

Serve the chops covered in the kraut mixture with the egg noodles on the side, and put gravy on the whole mess to taste.

Gravy: You can get pork base in the same brand (better than bullion) I mentioned above. You can also get "mushroom gravy" packets in the grocery store. Either will work. Corn starch will thicken anything you make too thin. Add the mushrooms before you thicken it.

I like to cook. I bbq more than pretty much anything else, but I do plenty of other cooking too. Let's share ideas for meals!

Tonight for dinner, I made ground beef hash. It was pretty simple. I put roughly 2 lbs ground beef in a bowl and mashed in some salt, basil, Worcestershire and fresh ground black pepper. I sautéed this meat and made it into pieces while it was cooking, then put it back in the bowl (grease and all) and set it aside. Next I put two diced Vidalia onions into the pan and carmelized them. I then put the onions into a small bowl. Next I put five (5) diced white potatoes into the pan with some garlic, ginger, salt, pepper, basil and olive oil. While the potatoes were cooking, I poured in some of the beef grease. When the potatoes were cooked I put the onions and beef back into the pan. Then I mixed a rounded teaspoon of "better than boullion" beef base with 2 ounces of water and poured that over the whole mess. I mixed this over heat while broccoli cooked on the other burner.

In case you're curious, it was delicious. I have enough for lunch the next few days at work, and I am already looking forward to eating it. Changes I would make now that I did it: More Worcestershire, more pepper, more garlic, add sour cream to the whole mess before serving.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhh, CPR lol (I told you I've been drinking) I have been CPR certified year in and year out since I first got my "emergency preparedness" boy scout merit badge... 21? 22? years ago.

No. I don't like Cuba, so I am going to wait you out.

If we hate all of our politicians, why do we keep electing them?

http://www.politico.com/...4_Page2.html#.U_QjkBN0wdV

I say frankly I don't know what your acronym speak means. I don't need any permits in my state for what I do with my guns. I do drill my children with Jeff Cooper's four laws of gun safety. I do practice shooting. I do go out of my way to ensure that others follow all safety rules on my family's range.

We did have an incident not that long ago, a guy gave his wife an M1 Garand without telling us that she was inexperienced, and without telling her the necessary rules of the range. I was *slightly* downrange of the muzzle for a round. The shockwave was... unpleasant. Actually, I am lucky I didn't fluff myself. It was terrifying.

To the above posts:

I am in auto finance. That means, when you buy a car at a dealership, I am the guy who tries to sell you the extended warranty (although we're not supposed to call it that), GAP insurance, and whatnot. Let me tell you, the "have it and not need it/need it and not have it" close is the best one I've got. The reason for this is simple - the first car I financed, I totaled and owed $3k to the bank after my insurance payout. Who budgets for that? Nobody. A few extra dollars a month to "not have to worry" about that expense is easy to justify.

What folks are saying here about guns is the same exact thing. Sure, the GAP company makes money (otherwise they wouldn't be in business) and most people never file a claim. That doesn't make the people who do file claims somehow part of a vast insurance company plot!

In fact, I just had a major repair to my car (2010 Ford Fusion, 43k miles) that was covered by my extended warranty. $0 out of pocket was WAY better than the several thousand it would have been otherwise.

All that I mean by this (and I know I'm rambling, I have been drinking) is that "not likely" is not nearly the same as "not possible," and given that gun ownership is a very rational choice.

This is sort of relevant. I thought about making a fresh topic, but I don't want to be "that guy" lol This guy, Jack Donovan, is a philosophical writer and focuses mostly on masculinity in the modern era. This is his latest essay. Probably his best one ever is "Violence is Golden," which is linked in the piece. FTR, Donovan is a homosexual. He rejects the term "gay" because he hates the connotation of the garish queen, and calls himself an "androphile." I only mention this because the go to response of left wing folk to Jack is "Republican retard!" and that is clearly not the case.

http://www.radixjournal.com/.../who-will-swing-the-blade

"An armed society is a polite society" -Robert Heinlein

TAN, I am sure you saw the story I directed at iScode on the other thread. With that in mind, protection of my children is #1 in my mind with firearms. Second of all, they are fun to shoot. My folks own a nice farm in VA with a gun range, and we have people out a couple times a year and put a few thousand rounds downrange. Everyone has a blast, and we blast a lot of fluff. Third, if SHTF those with guns will make the rules and make it through.

Have you looked into Connecticut Carry? According to them, there are literally 7x as many gun owners ignoring the law as are complying.

http://articles.courant.com/...fles-gun-registration-law

I cannot get the "open letter" to the state legislature to load, but it is pretty freaking ballsy.

Correia was only a finalist. So was The Wheel of Time. I am surprised it didn't win, since Tor managed to get the whole series nominated as one entry.

Yeah, but I am confident nobody at the Con that votes for the Hugos is holding forth on that 2a.

Second amendment. Right to bear arms. If you're not American probably not a fun convo lol, you should still read correia, he is very entertaining.

For a citizen reaction to gun control overreach, see Connecticut. They are a powder keg right now. Cops are refusing to enforce the law because 100s of k are refusing to comply.

See, I actually do admit when I am wrong! Who knew? :P

Ok, is that a real no or a "keep my position consistent" no?

TAN, I just want to tel you I looked deeper into the 12 witness thing... The person who reported it has recanted her claims. You were right about that part.

Although, the St. Louis paper has a lot of witnesses who back the cop. So although I might not know all the facts, enough is out there to start drawing conclusions. In reality, we probably never have *all* of the facts about anything ever.

I never claimed to. I just posted a relevant link. I don't think I have posted anything here directly related to "the facts" prior to what appears to be a relevant link.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/...ncounter-with-mike-brown/

Not familiar with this site but all claims linked to sources.

Anyone pay attention to this? The 2a discussion on the ferguson thread got me thinking about it. Larry correia is a huge 2a guy.

Whatever your feelings on the subject, the grimnoir chronicles is worth a read. You can actually see him maturing as a writer throughout the trilogy. The monster hunter books are fun too.

Tan, the afghanis have been holding off overwhelmingly superior militaries (is that the correct plural?) for a looooooooooong time.

Bombay is absolutely correct about the intent of the second amendment. You don't have to do much reading to discover what the founders had in mind. Just like freedom of speech and the press applies to the internet, the Supreme Court found in the heller case that the march of technology has no bearing on the right to bear arms.

When did it become radical to want to follow the us constitution in the us?

With the small teams on this server it is mostly peeps who know each other. Frequently they will have coordinated starts to be complimentary - ie tech rings, or in my case one front running commie Indy to deter grabs and do retals.

Correct, any laws restricting a citizens access to weapons is against the constitution. Thanks for recognizing that.

I can't understand a) how bar fights became the issue and b) why said fights are written off as "no big deal." I am a physically large person, big enough to intimidate off most morons, not big enough to get "picked out" by randoms with something to prove. I have had plenty of drunken fisticuffs, but never at a bar. Reason being, I know quite a few people who have been hospitalized with serious injuries following bar fights. When the Buffalo Wild Wings opened in my town, they had a guy die in a fight the first 6 months they were open. Funny thing about beer bottles, they are pretty fluffing dangerous. Alcohol leads to violence and poor choices, so you have picked pretty much the worst possible scenario to argue your "fights aren't that bad" point.

Another point - you don't have to shoot someone for the gun to do its job. See my story above. Just the thought that someone would be pointing a gun at the perp was enough to make said perp try elsewhere. Same deal with folks "feeling froggy." Nobody picks on the guy open carrying.

+1

Scode, I responded directly to your statement with an example that shows why your statement is horse puck. You didn't specify "situations like this" in your statement about needing a gun to defend your family. You just said if you need one you don't deserve to live. You are worse than nancy grace at this.

(Since you are not American, Nancy grace is a woman on cnn whose show is entirely comprised of hysterical fear mongering of the worst kind mingled with exploitation of every tragedy, always accompanied by huge screaming banners that yell breaking news even if the story is 3 years old)

You know how to get a hold of me if you ever need to vent!

I have to be bigger than "fresh restart" first silly.

Aw, lame, right when I came back! Who am I going to trade witty banter with *now?*

Really TAN? Hey pot, I have kettle on line 3 for you! He says you're black.

Alright mr. Internet tough guy, I am going to share a story with you. This happened on liberty street in long branch New Jersey, in 1983 or 1984, I am sure you can find the news stories on google if you want to fact check me.

I was very young at the time, as I was born in 1980. My parents were divorced. My older brother and I lived with my mom. One night, my mother (awake at weird times due to weird nursing hours) heard someone coming into the house. She hollered "James, get the gun!" (James is my brother) and the guy bolted.

From our house, he went to our neighbors house. He tied up a the mother and daughter, made them watch him kill the father, then raped and killed the mother in front of the daughter, then raped and killed the daughter. Firearms saved my whole family's life that night. There was no practical chance of my mother fighting off a thug intent on harm. There was no chance of my 7-8 year old brother doing it. There was no chance of 3-4 year old me doing it.

The cops were *at our house* while our neighbors were being tortured raped and slain. This is a neighborhood, not a rural area like I live in now.

Now tell me again why that family shouldn't have had guns to defend themselves from that sick fluff. Tell me how they didn't deserve to live.

So scode, you don't think women should have the right to defend themselves from violent rapists? If Wladimir Klitschko decides to force himself on every woman he meets they should just have to take it?

Yeah, that doesn't sound like the GE I remember

Every situation is different. If someone I know takes a poke at me in the heat of an argument, we'll beat each other bloody and be friends the next day. Been there done that.

If I am out and about and a random comes at me, I cannot guess their intent. I cannot ascertain their level of skill. All I can do is judge what I see, and if what I see is 300 lbs of pissed off charging at me, game over.

There you guys go, ruining a fun ribbing session with facts lol

Here you go, more fodder to call me crazy, I am passing firearm safety on to another generation. You're not invited when the zombies come. :P

http://www.fredericksburgparent.net/...one/1883-nice-shootin-tex

FTR, I am usually not on the side of the cops. When the perp clearly initiated the confrontation, it is a different story.

[quote poster=H4xOr WaNgEr; 32845; 593621][quote poster=VicRattlehead; 32845; 593611]Good to see that TAN is still dumb. Some things never change.

Shoot center mass. If the target doesn't go down shoot again.

Actually, when I shoot I practice firing twice rapidly, then sidestepping, then firing twice, etc., so waiting for him to go down wouldn't happen.

Nationwide, fists are already recognized as lethal force. By the accepted legal standard, he was in danger of his life and thus is justified in shooting the [kid]. [/quote]

That is so out of touch with reality it is almost offensive. Nobody deserves to die over a fist fight, and in the vast majority of circumstance neither party would expect a fight to end with a mortality. Considering yourself to be in "life threatening danger" over a fist fight is pretty far fetched, and clearly anyone shooting over such things places little value in human life.

A third of the population would probably be dead via gunshot wound if fistfights were the standard for killing.

Sure people die in fist fights but it is very uncommon. Most fist fights get broken up when it is clear one side is "done". [/quote]

I didn't say I thought it should be that way, I said it is. Legal precedent matters, and the precedent is that for the purposes of self defense cases, fists are lethal weapons.

TAN, glad you remember me as a gun loony haha I am one of he he safest people with firearms you'll meet. Friend me on FB and I will show you pictures of many people shooting in safety at my folks farm.

Good to see that TAN is still dumb. Some things never change.

Shoot center mass. If the target doesn't go down shoot again.

Actually, when I shoot I practice firing twice rapidly, then sidestepping, then firing twice, etc., so waiting for him to go down wouldn't happen.

Nationwide, fists are already recognized as lethal force. By the accepted legal standard, he was in danger of his life and thus is justified in shooting the [kid].

Okie dokie PM the address I'll be right there

Ford is gonna drag down your average. :P

Ford, maybe we can screw up our destock together, like old times!

Hmm, if you are interested in some help or advice I am sure most of us would be willing to help.