*crickets*

Qzjul abused admin access, we've been over this already and he apologized for it but he still did it, laf apoligized for it as well anyway i fully expect SOL PDM and MD to refuse to pact evo for 6 months and FS them every reset.

I dont see why servant would make z that SOL fsed Monsters more then once Makinso

fluff

First, that was not the actual reasons. Read past threads. It was just my opinion that it is a pretty valid reason to fight and a pretty stupid thing for someone who doesn't want to fight to do. Second, I'm not reading that much text so I'm gonna go get food instead ;)

I've spoken to you privately, don't come on here and troll your better than that.

That's the reason this game is now so lame. Declare wars and posting lies as reasons.

If you think that's a reason to break a pact, then we differ in opinion locket. I've had many conversations with LaF guys about this, and it comes down to they think it's okay to break pacts because of a name theme. Well guess what, if you drop members at the end of the set, get ready to take the pressure from the community. It's low down to try and win ANW that way, and it wasn't LaF's first time they had tried in the last seconds of the set. Some Evo guys wanted to go to war with LaF over it because it wasn't a very "ally" thing to do, but the leadership said we will stand by our word and keep the pacts. It's just unfortunate that LaF didn't feel that way, and specifically it seems SS may have twisted the pact into what he wanted, because as we've argued many times before, there were definitely some issues with that pact, but SS trying to social engineer Diez to admit that the pact was void was wrong (and taken out of context). I look back at that set as the precursor to all of the fluff that has occurred now (hanlong and TC notwithstanding).

I've said it before, but I'll say it again here too (though off topic), I don't think LaF should have taken all the fluff they did from the whole "cheating scandal" but I do think they had it coming with how much dirty political stunts they had been pulling. We can disagree on that topic perhaps, but literally hanlong even admitted to me that he didn't understand why LaF backstabbed Evo on that pact, he said he was away and that SS directed the alliance in a way he wouldn't have. Breaking pacts and backstabbing alliances (even if YOU think it's valid) is not a way to make friends.

It's a good thing that LaF has as many skilled players as they do, otherwise you would have been left by the wayside without allies for some of the actions you did in previous sets. I hope SG can really turn that around, but this vendetta business (on both sides really) is not helping. The rhetoric on the forums especially is not helping. Ridiculing the other side for wanting to make peace at the end of the war? Really? It's like some people want this rivalry to continue until everyone is sick of EE and just quits. That doesn't help anyone in my opinion.

did they get past the Diablo 3 talk.. or was it in a differnt thread... these all pretty much end up the same way..


"Yo, act 3 on Infernal is tough yawl."

If calling you guys out for posting a war declaration full of lies is trolling, then I'm a troll and proud of it. You've had plenty of time to admit you posted fiction, but instead of admitting your mistake you're trying to sweep it under the rug.

1) Sof never said it would stay out of evo/sol vs laf (proof already posted). We didn't even imply we would. I said "maybe".
2) SoF never apologized and never said we were "answering our allies call"
3) SoF did not say they were "forced" to break their word because we didn't break our fluffing word.

I find it hilarious that you attack us, post lies and then call me a troll.

How about you admit your war declaration was a piece of fiction and we can all move on? I'm not going to drop it, especially when I kept copies of the chat logs.

Either you made a mistake or you're lying to your members. Either way you're not going to call me a liar and talk your way out of it.

It was in our pact with evo they could not pact sol unless we both pacted sol. Evo pacted sol. Regardless of what you say, if you dont abide by the terms of a pact, then you are the ones that broke it.

LaF abided by the terms of the pact, evo chose not to. Once that choice is made, the pact can be deemed void.

I KILL YOU ALL

bastards i just logged into my country :(