more raging please, running out of stuff to read

Actually, at the time of the FS, we weren't finished tagging up either. Evo has an over 2.0 restart rate, lol.

And now what is the difference? Sof/Rival/Laf have 193 countries alive, Evo/Monsters/Sol have 107. And we ate two FSes at this point. Remember that '3.5 alliances' and 'we're going to go it alone' bit? Well, now it's 3 vs 3.2 alliances, and the 3 alliances have almost double the numbers we do.

wheres MD?

de1i:

You aren't one of the unreasonable naysayers.

Atryn:

I would be surprised that you were netting when you knew SoF was coming for you. At worst, that is poor planning on MD's part.

None claimed MD won. They just don't give SoF credit....for some of the reasons you stated. Yet, we are supposed to ignore those same reasons offered wrt the previous set; MD FSd a mostly netting SoF.

If MD were netting that set then that is poor communication to the members from MD's leadership because both sides knew it was coming.

its not our fault you giys cant recruit!

Its almost the same. SoF knew MD was coming. I don't know exactly what SoF wanted, I thought I heard you wanted 1/2 your alliance to war and 1/2 to net or something? Either way, you knew we were coming. You called in LaF for a 2x (or whatever it was) advantage over MD and MD went down in flames.

I think it was reasonable to assume, at that point, given your victory that MD could back off. But no, you came after MD the next set as well. Maybe some in MD suspected you were coming, I don't know. But the set was supposed to be netting and that is what MD set up for. MD certainly didn't go running off to make it 2x against you. MD fought it out the hard way, and lost.

SoF wants to always win its wars, I think AT gets that. There isn't any interest there in "fairness" or sportsmanship. They just want to win. That isn't wrong, it just is what it is.

The sooner people realize reality, the sooner they can stop making dumb assumptions like "if its even they'll fight it out".

You are so wrong on many levels. I wonder if you are just twisting facts for the public eye or if you really believe the crap you are shovelling.

Or maybe you missed Havoc's video address where he specifically quoted Maverick's presidential speech "fluff SoF, this set we are bringing 100." Or did they just mean you are bringing 100 to a net-off? I see.

MD knew if they hit sof that laf would be called in, the sole reason they hit that set was to ruin sof's anniversary set and not let them split the tags. They were warned, then knew the consequences and yet they still went through with it.

MD shouldnt cry about laf being called in when they knew it would happen before they fs'd. However your properganda team thought, this will be a great chance to loose and play the victim/sympathy card, i guess you just love playing the victim. I bet you love it so much, after sex, you yell rape...

Sov / iScode,

Its clear we don't see things the same way. There was certainly never any discussion that I saw where MD was "out to ruin an anniversary set". That's BS I would never condone. In fact, there was discussion about the fact that we SoF was having a reunion set and _should_ that stop us from proceeding? In the end, we decided it shouldn't stop us because SoF would have a larger number of players anyway and it would be a better fight.

You are mixing causation and correlation.

Where you both seem to consistently go wrong with your logic is the starting assumption that its all about you.

Atryn

it was disscused with me, by your leaders, in a pre set meeting along with Omega, SoL and LCN when imag and md were FDP's

I know for a fact it was part of there motivation, I have posted logs from that meeting showing it was part of there motivation. There was no assumption.

Oh you didn't know about LAF coming in? Maybe your leadership needs to work on communication.

[2012-12-19 22:23:00] <Sov> You were not being ignored, you were messaging my home computer when I was at work
[2012-12-19 22:23:10] <Sov> but this discussion is useless
[2012-12-19 22:23:20] <FujiMD> Why is that?
[2012-12-19 22:25:59] <Sov> Because we have been going round and round for weeks and it has gotten us nowhere. LAF sent a message to MD today, I suggest you take it seriously. I am not going to waste any more time negotiating.
[2012-12-19 22:27:58] <Sov> But know this, SoF is not looking to hit MD, we will leave the ball in your court for this set. We will judge you on your actions.
[2012-12-19 22:30:34] <FujiMD> I feel like you should know why I don't believe you

And yes we left the ball in your court and we judged you on your actions. And you didn't take LAF seriously, your own problem and not ours.

If you want we can post all the logs? It's just well, MD won't look like the victim you portray them to be. But hey, if we want to get it all out in the open, let's make a new thread and go for it. And you guys can post up Havoc's video for fluffs and giggles :)

Love the oop FS, creates so much farm land!

Don't see anywhere that I said that actually? We knew you could call LaF in. I never said "we didn't know LaF would come in". I think it just goes well with the title of this thread about SoF being pussies.

You can consider us pussies if you want, everyone is entitled to their opinion. We still wiped the floor with MD for 4 sets in a row so we have our own opinion.

FYI Atryn


[09:27] <@Randy[MD]> and we'll ruin their reunion netting set
[09:27] <@Randy[MD]> WIN WIN baby
[09:27] <@PrideMD> Doesn't matter
[09:27] <@PrideMD> we're ok with it
[09:27] <@iScode> remember i do have a lot of love for sof guys, if your plan here is to do that, i want no part of it

Well, I guess "you're welcome" for what you must have seen as a recruitment video for SoF's FS?

MD had just gotten slaughtered in a way unbalanced war. We were proud that even with that loss we were going to bring 100 countries (our goal) for our reunion set. The whole "fluff SoF we are bringing 100" (or whatever the exact language was) was about US not YOU.

As I said before, it isn't all about YOU. WE were proud to bring players back to the game DESPITE a loss to SoF/LaF combined the prior set. That isn't the same as your personal interpretation of it as "let's get 100+ countries to FS SoF". See, in your version of the world, SoF is the center of everyone's actions. Get over yourself.

I think we found agreement!!!!

To you, winning is everything, regardless of the means.

Thx.

Every alliance has its more.... passionate? members. Randy's voice there wasn't the dominant voice in the decision process. We weren't FS'ing SoF to ruin their reunion set. We were FS'ing SoF for other reasons and it happened to also be their reunion set. As I said before, there was a discussion internally over whether this should cause us to hold off or not. The decision was that SoF would have better numbers and was a warring alliance at heart anyway. So the position was much closer to Pride's quote there: "we're ok with it" and not Randy's "WIN WIN".

But, like I said, every alliance has a range of perspectives.

Dude, rape isn't something to joke about. I know you Aussies are a bit of an odd lot but that crossed a line.

Grow up.

I love how you guys try to portray yourselves in such a positive light, but you are not really fooling many people. Maybe your own members if they want to believe you. The entire server knew SoF/MD were going to fight that set. Your allies knew and discussed it with us. Your leaders discussed it with our allies.

See one thing you forget is that SoF/MD were fighting that set before because MD was trying to bully/kill RD, an Alliance half your size. SoF was defending RD. So when MD outnumber an Alliance 2:1 it is okay, but when MD is outnumbered by those same odds it is unfair. Yes, we see how MD perceives things.

Woah now cowboy, I'm not sure if you insulted Aussies by saying iSode is an Aussie....or if you insulted iScode by calling him an Aussie, but I'm pretty sure someone is insulted!

LOL its probably the latter. iScode might suicide you now XD.

regardless of all the crap people are spouting, we all know that there is more than one way to be good at this game. Some clans are good at warring, some good at netting and some are good at politics. Usually a winning combination is combining netting or warring with politics. If you can do all three (which I have RARELY seen) then your clan is destined for greatness.

When SoF doesn't want to war alone they never do, why? Because SoF is good at politics. They make agreements and do their best to stick with them. They make policies that they stand by (even if others may not agree with them). Because of this they have made AND kept many friends who are willing to fight for them whenever they need or want.

SO if you want to complain that SoF is winning or could win because of the numbers, complain to your clan leaders on why your clan doesn't have as many friends. Maybe you'll find some truths you don't like.

You stupid fluffs are pissing me off. This is a war about SOL/EVO/Monsters vs LAF/RIVAL/SOF.

Shut the fluff up and get off MD's fluff. We're not in this battle, we dont' give a fluff about you or the fluffing past. We do our thing no matter what you fluffing do. I find it fluffING hilarious that sets after that fluff happened, yours till talking about it. Both sides. Get the fluff on to a new subject already you stupid fluffing trolls.

Enough said.

Randybu - a nobody in MD, no matter what my old sig says that i've never changed.

SOF is ranked too low!

How can SoF/LaF be pussies, when your all the pussies for not standing up to them? They punk you guys everyset!

There we have it people. Proof that MD never intended to hold up the agreement they made with Omega, Sol and Imag, bassically before this discussion took place they had already decided to hit SoF, even though in this discussion they said they wouldnt.

SOL this is clear evidence that you were stabbed in the back by MD, yet you still support them? More fool you.


Mdevol - If hollywood can joke about rape, i dont see how I have crossed a line.

The wild hogs.

Martin Lawerance - "Does anyone get that pre rape feeling"
Biker guy in with raper look - "I do".

that fluff still cracks me up.

Wild Hogs quote on AT?

My life is complete.

you seem to be on a different page than the rest of your members. you might wanna look into that.

Yeah wtf is MD doing in this f**cking thread.
You hijacking mofos.



LOL

War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
War is something that I despise
For it means destruction of innocent lives
For it means tears in thousands of mothers' eyes
When their sons go out to fight to give their lives

War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing

War
It's nothing but a heartbreaker
War
Friend only to the undertaker
War is the enemy of all mankind
The thought of war blows my mind
Handed down from generation to generation
Induction destruction
Who wants to die

War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing

War has shattered many young men's dreams
Made them disabled bitter and meanLife is too precious to be fighting wars
each day
War can't give life it can only take it away

War
It's nothing but a heartbreaker
War
Friend only to the undertaker
Peace love and understanding
There must be some place for these things today
They say we must fight to keep our freedom
But Lord there's gotta be a better way
That's better than
War

War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing

RANDY!!!!! TANKS LATER?!

Randy Randy Bodandy working the street with noooo shirt

hey Randy

fluff you

love Ricky

Just do a successful AB FS MD.