Dragon (Scorba)

The best player right now will be the person who has won alliance, primary, express, team, tournament and FFA with different strategies in each server. I don't think such a person exists. So there's no best player.

However, there's a select group of players who can play every strategy and pull them off successfully no matter the server. Many of the people mentioned in this thread are capable of that. So there's no best player, just a bunch of awesome players.

Then people should post their top 10 awesome players.

it's probably ok to be impressed by oldman winning like 6 sets of primary or w/e and plenty of tourney, express, etc. you're thinking too much about alliance only

+1

Looking through the past winners and the posts here. It is claimed that Seth and other RD's didn't do well with their landtrading due to the smaller networths prior to the LaF/RD trading set.

I don't believe that's a fair comparison. As RD didn't have bonafide trading partners during that entire time. The reason for the extremely high networths that reset was the combined effort allowing for targets to trade with. It's much more difficult to landtrade if there aren't enough partners to trade with and then after a while no one within the proper range, which looks to be the case in the resets that lead up to that LaF/RD reset.

As for that reset, clicking through earthstats, it looks like there were a few RD countries way ahead in land over the LaF countries at the same time, that would have allowed 2 or so LaF countries a fantastic opportunity later in the reset with them still able to find partners compared to Seth and other RD's chance.

Either way its obvious there's a number of great players all around
If you look at top 10's looks as though, Bakku, Lenshark,Xinhuan,Osso,Florian,Bark,Smlandau84, highrock, Son Goku, Chump have all done extremely well.

If you look at the Best 3 finishes, Son Goku, Bakku, Smlandau84, Chump, Xinhaun, and Osso have a fairly commanding lead in that category, before it drops by a 10m avg, to Wari, and then another 13m to a unlinked account and then again 6m more down to SolidSnake and Locket

Osso cheats. Every time I do well, he does even better :( For Evo, just look at our tag history. Whoever got the top spot the previous set gets the tag named after them. You'll notice a LOT of EVOvince and EVOosso. The erroneous EVOtella was Osso passing it up in my honor :P

he's actually talking out of his arse in regards to the reset candy and i were FAed.
RD gave me my FA to combat the O leech candy had while grabbing to 80k and to combat the massive FA he received. we did not anticipate he would have received as much but three things are true:
i was FA'ed less than candy.
even had I not been fa'ed less than him, he still had me beat.
my country would have beat out ershow's, which is why it was picked that I would receive fa equal or less to that of candy. i did not receive more than 28million nw worth of fa

1 Dragon Knight Sword (#313) 77,115 $274,856,837 HG LaF candy
2 HAnlOng2 (#112) 37,776 $258,608,350 DG ResDogs vic
3 Love Acturally (#55) 42,585 $230,345,540 DG ResDogs ersh

... and that's not to mention i'm not even in question in this freaking thread, i am no where in the realm of the best players. locket is just being his typical 'pick fights with everyone on every side of this server' self

seth is so good he can make 10b worth of stock in 100 turns :P

he did it earlier this reset in fact ;)

"i was FA'ed less than candy."

false. if you subtracted the aid you got and made a new country with all the aid you received, you'd have a second top 100 country

that's quite incorrect. 50% of any aid i received was repayment for the 2 tech allies that leeched from me for half of the set, and the payment was NOT in full. the aid i received over that was about 20m nw worth. you received much more. you also had an O leech and we calculated the compound benefit of doing so while grabbing to 80k and that alone was worth well over 25m nw for the set.

what is correct is during that set, under your 'Mr Sunglow' identity that I had given you (to the reluctance of the other colors) earlier that set, you did little to help improve RD and LaF relations, used your color to screw both rd and laf and obnoxiously pestered everyone on color board about their stocks, and then used that info to benefit your own country (while also employing hash and one other to manipulate the bushel market with you toward the end)

you also lied to most all if not all of laf about being mr sunglow so shame shame shame to you.
and let's not get into the reset where 'navel' and candyman played countries during the same period.

that set I barely tried, starting grabbing LATE after i returned from abroad, and you put in stupid geek hours and used an O leech.
the one and only set you and I have ever had a netting competition, I beat you. And you had to post on AT that I did so.



... now that's the truth

You netters cries and whine too much. You've been around Vic for too long. I also don't give a rat's ass about your past finishes. I challenge any of you clowns to a one vs one war. HA!

And Vic please don't accept my challenge son. I will just publicly humiliate you.

My penis is bigger than all of yours, therefore I'm the best netter

the hebrew hammer

Lol Hebrew hammer!


Also Trot I'm sorry you are so mistaken about the conceptions as to how land trading can work. You don't need countries anywhere near your land size or nw to trade with if you know what you are doing. Even now I could play without any of the things you think a good trader needs and pass those nw's posted. Rd also internally traded hits during that period and hadn't though outside the box as to how to trade efficiently. Also the set your talking about none of the RD countries were built up as they traded and in effect were passed in ending nw because of this...a lot of that big set was actually sub optimal for all of the t10 players and if the game formulars were still the same you would find that there are a number of players (that know how to and could inside LaF) pass 500m nw playing the trader.

"Also the set your talking about none of the RD countries were built up as they traded and in effect were passed in ending nw because of this..."

i can't speak to "none" of us, but i can damn sure tell you I fit that bill to a t :( but i didn't understand how ineffective and painful to my soul that it would be for me to build my cs AFTER i started trading- this was my error, hard to build up 9000 acres in one days turns with a 60bpt :P

whoever mentioned rockmans name for having helped them the most, that reset i speak of above, rockman did yoemans work helping me, as well. when he didn't need to at all, he'd still answer my questions and clarify when he'd lost me. a very good guy.

not quite. he did it on some of the others too.

i also know that two of his wins came when i had the #1 country on the server, but got suicided either for being the top country or because of some lame grudge someone held. either way after taht happened twice in a row for hanlong he made the joke that being the second best country would be the first place finisher for a long time citing both of those resets as the prime examples of that joke.

for a long time finishing a netting set in 1a had more to do with luck/griefers than anything else. once we transitinoed to ee its all been about free land except for a few sets where netting skills were truly put to the test. the netting set where ss got the win is a good example of such a set.

Locket is best!

I had 7 top 10 appearances. Last set in the first 3 weeks.

I have played in both RD and Laf. I assure you that outside of maybe 1-2 people Laf was not beyond the top couple in RD. After the top 5% in RD though is where the dropoff came and it went fast.

Don't worry locket you weren't in this conversation of best.

I'd also like to say anyone who proclaims to be the best, is really just an ego case.

I'd also like to say, IM THE BEST fluffES.

I never seriously claimed to be dude -_- I was just mentioned as one of the ones in the top 10ish best 3 countries so I took it and ran

Children, please stop arguing.

haha ok :)

you do know I'm just giving you fluff :p

fifteen years later, i think on a whole, we never will, bertz ;)

but, fifteen years later, we all still seem to be children ;p

Yeah I think so. lol
We will be forever children playing this game

I thought so after I replied :P I just didnt edit. I agree with you as best player though. No one else has said you arent.

People are arguing about who's the best landtrader... really?

oldman is pretty dominant in primary right now. And it seems like he does VERY well on other servers as well. He has won every non-FFA server. I don't think anyone else has done this. Slagpit perhaps?

Also, I kicked Seth's ass in primary a few sets ago. Just wanted everyone to remember that:P J/k seth!

I'm liking how much love/consideration primary performance is getting on an AT thread btw. Why don't you all come play in primary next set???

Come on Xin, I'd run circles over you on any server. You want me to teach you how to tech?

Hahah Love it... maybe a tournament needs to be run lol

" He has won every non-FFA server. I don't think anyone else has done this. Slagpit perhaps?" my bet is ska, if it did, bobby :P

why i don;t play primary is because i end up everybodys farm land. i can't run a decent enough start up rep to make my rep casher defensible early game, mid game where i get raped everyday because there's only so much money to spend on tech or military, and then i give up before stockpiling starts because i lost finishing at all potentially well at turn 400 :P

i guess i should be thankful ya'll don't play team or express ;)

In all honesty I like Rockman as best player because he is willing to think outside the box.

If Rockman could ever be so inclined to actually grab he'd be #1 for sure.

Rockman has never been past 10k acres :P he would get confused when he go to 5 digits

hahaha back in the day man he could grab with the best of em :)

I'm not interested, thank you for the kind offer!

#1 Xin is Asian
#2 Xin is a bot
#3 Xin fluffs skittles

No way you teaching him fluff!

Before I read more,

Seriously, Titanium, do you really want to make a claim to best player while getting tech leeches and FA daily?
I have respect for the OLD RDers who manipulated the game through politics, some did cheat, some ran bots, no much respect for those. But I don't believe any of the EE era RD finishes are legit.

Hanlong is my absolutely #1 vote right now in EE era. One of his wins, he decided to convert from Farmer to Casher at like 60k acres, like, seriously, what the hell.

Like En4cer posted, LaF, at any given time, has 10-15 guys who can challenge for the win, another 10-15 guys who can, but are retired. Out of the 10-15 playing, 5 guys could be playing on a phone while travelling for work, 5 could be playing some weird strategy like Commie freaking Indy for giggles, and other 5 could be ABed.

I'm not ignoring the abilities of other players, but if you want to put a claim to be the best netgainer on Alliance, you would have to join LaF to compete against LaF players. Heck I'd say some of our guys still play just to try and beat an old friend just for bragging rights right now.

Anyways, as always, spamalicious.

Also, I'd like to add.

I only land traded this set so I could keep up with all the land traders, and guess where that got me, a giant parking lot.

Land Trading in it's current form isn't even the best it can be, why? Because there's LaF land traders, then there's the rest of the land traders who either 1) Don't build up, 2) Don't buy tech so they can leech off other land traders, 3) All of the above.

For the little wannabe creator of land trading....

http://www.earthempires.com/...trading-1400?t=1273968874

How many resets was that before you figured it out?

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You obviously have no clue what you are talking about in terms of what land trading requires.

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correct and this is why land trading/self farming in ffa is better and where landtrading game style should stay.

also thorne has a point but its easy enough to get around it you want