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Ivan Game profile

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Feb 5th 2017, 19:23:27


lots of european countries still have monarchs in a democratic system :P

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Feb 5th 2017, 20:02:26

for example britain which is buddy-buddy with yankees.
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Feb 5th 2017, 20:05:47

Britian is our bottom fluff
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Feb 6th 2017, 2:34:46

Originally posted by Ivan:

lots of european countries still have monarchs in a democratic system :P


Only the ones full of pussies.

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Feb 6th 2017, 4:50:19

Andorra
Belgium
Denmark
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Monaco
Netherlands
Norway
Spain
Sweden
United Kingdom
Vatican City

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Feb 6th 2017, 5:02:59

Originally posted by Dissident:
Andorra
Belgium
Denmark
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Monaco
Netherlands
Norway
Spain
Sweden
United Kingdom
Vatican City


Real democracies overthrow the monarch.

Also - this was very Marshall like...

Ivan Game profile

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Feb 6th 2017, 5:15:31

Real democracies has 1 vote per person


BAZINGA

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Feb 6th 2017, 6:47:46

Lol @ Vatican City 💩
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Feb 6th 2017, 7:50:32

in real democracies, every vote is equal

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Feb 6th 2017, 10:40:31

Real democracies are just mob rule. Democratically Elected Republics are like the Sheriffs of the wild west; they will keep most mobs away, over-all they are good, but like any govt system they arent perfect.
*Splat*

Scott Game profile

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Feb 6th 2017, 12:46:43

Originally posted by Ivan:
Real democracies has 1 vote per person


BAZINGA


We can fix that by not allowing non-citizens a vote!

Scott Game profile

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Feb 6th 2017, 12:47:44

Originally posted by Dissident:
in real democracies, every vote is equal


In real Canada... dissident is still incredibly butt hurt.

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Feb 6th 2017, 13:43:40

Originally posted by Scott:
Originally posted by Dissident:
...

Also - this was very Marshall like...



Ouch. Cold-blooded

Edited By: Primeval on Feb 6th 2017, 14:09:08

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Feb 6th 2017, 13:48:55

I love how people that scream for 100% democracy/mob rule, forget that's how the minority is destroyed. There is no protections for the minority in a mob rule
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Ivan Game profile

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Feb 6th 2017, 18:25:17

Originally posted by Scott:
Originally posted by Ivan:
Real democracies has 1 vote per person


BAZINGA


We can fix that by not allowing non-citizens a vote!



I agree but it wouldnt make a difference and so far ive havnt seen any evidence of such things occuring? seems like its just erdogans ranting erm i meant trump ranting

Scott Game profile

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Feb 6th 2017, 18:40:20

Originally posted by Ivan:
Originally posted by Scott:
Originally posted by Ivan:
Real democracies has 1 vote per person


BAZINGA


We can fix that by not allowing non-citizens a vote!



I agree but it wouldnt make a difference and so far ive havnt seen any evidence of such things occuring? seems like its just erdogans ranting erm i meant trump ranting


John Podesta acknowledged the problem if you look at the emails Wikileaks released :)

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Feb 6th 2017, 18:56:44

Originally posted by IgnitionCWG:
I love how people that scream for 100% democracy/mob rule, forget that's how the minority is destroyed. There is no protections for the minority in a mob rule


so not all votes are equal?

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Feb 6th 2017, 19:00:25

Originally posted by Ivan:
Originally posted by Scott:
Originally posted by Ivan:
Real democracies has 1 vote per person


BAZINGA


We can fix that by not allowing non-citizens a vote!



I agree but it wouldnt make a difference and so far ive havnt seen any evidence of such things occuring? seems like its just erdogans ranting erm i meant trump ranting


Good thing you're outside Gollum's jurisdiction ;)

Originally posted by Dissident:
Originally posted by IgnitionCWG:
I love how people that scream for 100% democracy/mob rule, forget that's how the minority is destroyed. There is no protections for the minority in a mob rule


so not all votes are equal?


2 words: electoral college
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Scott Game profile

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Feb 7th 2017, 0:10:04

Originally posted by elvesrus:
Originally posted by Ivan:
Originally posted by Scott:
Originally posted by Ivan:
Real democracies has 1 vote per person


BAZINGA


We can fix that by not allowing non-citizens a vote!



I agree but it wouldnt make a difference and so far ive havnt seen any evidence of such things occuring? seems like its just erdogans ranting erm i meant trump ranting


Good thing you're outside Gollum's jurisdiction ;)

Originally posted by Dissident:
Originally posted by IgnitionCWG:
I love how people that scream for 100% democracy/mob rule, forget that's how the minority is destroyed. There is no protections for the minority in a mob rule


so not all votes are equal?


2 words: electoral college


Two more words... Constitutional Republic

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Feb 7th 2017, 0:14:58

luck with that
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Feb 7th 2017, 21:56:46

Trump is operating at a business executive's pace and working to fulfill his campaign promises to the American People as rapidly as possible, something that has rarely been seen or experienced in Washington.

Grade: A+ / 200%

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Feb 8th 2017, 1:46:05

nice

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Feb 8th 2017, 5:37:48

Originally posted by will send missiles:
Trump is operating at a business executive's pace and working to fulfill his campaign promises to the American People as rapidly as possible, something that has rarely been seen or experienced in Washington.

Grade: A+ / 200%


Take healthcare away- Check
Allow torture again- Check
Respond to SNL more- check
Let coal mines dump waste in rivers again- check
Can sell guns to severely mentally ill- Check
Eliminate separation of church and state- Pending
Oil companies don't need to report bribes from 3rd world dictators- Check
Financial advisors don't have to act in the best interest of clients anymore- Check

Yep... we're right on track.

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Feb 8th 2017, 8:43:44

Originally posted by Dissident:
Originally posted by will send missiles:
Trump is operating at a business executive's pace and working to fulfill his campaign promises to the American People as rapidly as possible, something that has rarely been seen or experienced in Washington.

Grade: A+ / 200%


Take healthcare away- Check
Allow torture again- Check
Respond to SNL more- check
Let coal mines dump waste in rivers again- check
Can sell guns to severely mentally ill- Check
Eliminate separation of church and state- Pending
Oil companies don't need to report bribes from 3rd world dictators- Check
Financial advisors don't have to act in the best interest of clients anymore- Check

Yep... we're right on track.


I'm still not a huge fan of Trump, but one promise I'm glad to see he seems to be taking seriously is the repeal of the "Affordable" (lol) Care Act. Getting rid of that is not "Taking away healthcare"... it is restoring the freedom of people to CHOOSE how they want to handle those expenses. We already had systems to handle medical care for the poor. They weren't perfect, but they were far better than the so called solution we got in 2009. We didn't need a bill forcing everybody to carry coverage they don't want and have no use for. We didn't need the Commucrat party doubling or tripling everyone's premiums. Obamacare hurt FAR more people than it helped. Worse than the financial damage it did though is the assault on individual liberty. Every one of our "representatives" who voted for it should have been charged with treason.

Dissident Game profile

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Feb 8th 2017, 13:56:42

Im not going to touch that. I dont have the energy today.

Ivan Game profile

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Feb 8th 2017, 18:22:10

lol yeah why give healthcare to people who need it

I mean most other western countries in the world does it, but WE KNOW BETTER THEN THEM WE ARE SAM DANGER! etc

Dissident Game profile

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Feb 9th 2017, 3:28:00

ya... but American's should be smart enough to manage their finances in case they get cancer or lose a finger or something.

It's not like 18% of American's don't know Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act are the same thing. oh wait...

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Feb 9th 2017, 4:58:39

Originally posted by Ivan:
lol yeah why give healthcare to people who need it

I mean most other western countries in the world does it, but WE KNOW BETTER THEN THEM WE ARE SAM DANGER! etc


Originally posted by SAM_DANGER:
We already had systems to handle medical care for the poor. They weren't perfect, but they were far better than the so called solution we got in 2009.


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Feb 9th 2017, 5:10:25

Originally posted by Dissident:

It's not like 18% of American's don't know Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act are the same thing. oh wait...


Its no secret that 18% of Americans are clueless when it comes to politics. I'd put the number quite a bit higher than that, actually. Look how many will keep voting in senators and representatives who favor Federal overreach on issues that are already handled at the state level. Politicians (from both teams) in the Federal Government have run up a debt that works out to over $160,000 per US tax payer. Every tax payer is on the hook for enough money to buy my house 1.25 times. Yet we keep reelecting these lying, dishonorable thieves over and over again.

Scott Game profile

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Feb 9th 2017, 5:15:10

Originally posted by SAM_DANGER:
Originally posted by Ivan:
lol yeah why give healthcare to people who need it

I mean most other western countries in the world does it, but WE KNOW BETTER THEN THEM WE ARE SAM DANGER! etc


Originally posted by SAM_DANGER:
We already had systems to handle medical care for the poor. They weren't perfect, but they were far better than the so called solution we got in 2009.




It that is not what IVAN was told to think by his socialist masters! Liar... we should burn fluff and call Sam a racist!

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Feb 9th 2017, 13:18:13



Take healthcare away- Check - Conjecture
Allow torture again- Check - True, but would't you if your daughter was about to be decapitated? Wouldn't you do anything and everything in your power to save her?
Respond to SNL more- check - The Admin is definitely a little thin skinned about SNL. They are pretty funny skits.
Let coal mines dump waste in rivers again- check - Conjecture
Can sell guns to severely mentally ill- Check - Talk to the Democrats and HIPPA about that one. Vermont - barely any gun laws, barely any crime. Liberal Chicago, can't own a BB Gun and crime out the A$$ on an hourly basis- abhorrent, but that's Democratic management for you.
Eliminate separation of church and state- Pending - "I pledge Allegience to the Flag, an the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, One Nation Under God....." What's the wrong with this?
Oil companies don't need to report bribes from 3rd world dictators- Check - The U.S. should basically threaten any 3rd world dictator with prolonged and agonizing death unless the animal does our bidding.
Financial advisors don't have to act in the best interest of clients anymore- Check- Conjecture

Ivan Game profile

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Feb 9th 2017, 17:09:42


Take healthcare away- Most likely

Allow torture again - yer daughter is more likely to set her clothes on fire and die from that then a terrorist attack, i say we torture all clothes manufacturers too, also i dont think your smart enough to be allowed to have kids

Let coal mines dump waste in rivers again- perhaps not but definately allow more chemicals/bad for the nature stuff because stupid people think its good for the economy while other nations are reaping dough producing green tech stuff

Can sell guns to severely mentally ill - stats show that if yer getting robbed yer safer without a gun then with a gun, only republicans are stupid enough not to believe statistics

Eliminate separation of church and state - what god do you refer to? do you have any scientific studies showing that there actually is a god?

Financial advisors don't have to act in the best interest of clients anymore- sweet more financial criseses!


I love how the world is going backwards in development in many cases

long live trump




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Feb 9th 2017, 17:42:07

ivan the terrible democrat.

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Feb 9th 2017, 17:56:20

Cancel your netflix accounts and gaze upon the giant wall around the Vatican as the pope demonizes the wall that's probably being built on the US/Mexico border.
I am a troll. Everything I say must be assumed to be said solely to provoke an exaggerated reaction to the current topic. I fully intend to bring absolutely no substance to any discussion, ongoing or otherwise. Conversing with me is pointless.

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Feb 9th 2017, 19:11:15

Originally posted by NukEvil:
Cancel your netflix accounts and gaze upon the giant wall around the Vatican as the pope demonizes the wall that's probably being built on the US/Mexico border.

Yep.

I hate the current pope more than Hillary Clinton and Obama combined. Child molesting communist/Marxist bouncer fluff hole hypocrite.
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Feb 9th 2017, 21:07:31

Originally posted by Ivan:

Take healthcare away- Most likely

Allow torture again - yer daughter is more likely to set her clothes on fire and die from that then a terrorist attack, i say we torture all clothes manufacturers too, also i dont think your smart enough to be allowed to have kids

Let coal mines dump waste in rivers again- perhaps not but definately allow more chemicals/bad for the nature stuff because stupid people think its good for the economy while other nations are reaping dough producing green tech stuff

Can sell guns to severely mentally ill - stats show that if yer getting robbed yer safer without a gun then with a gun, only republicans are stupid enough not to believe statistics

Eliminate separation of church and state - what god do you refer to? do you have any scientific studies showing that there actually is a god?

Financial advisors don't have to act in the best interest of clients anymore- sweet more financial criseses!


I love how the world is going backwards in development in many cases

long live trump






Please explain what healthcare they would be losing!

I can't wait for this response... can not freaking wait.

Also please show me your stats that say "if you are getting robbed yer safer to not have a gun"... I know what report you are referencing and that is not how the study was performed.

Edited By: Scott on Feb 9th 2017, 21:11:14
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Feb 9th 2017, 21:07:35

Sam danger... the separation of church and state is in the constitution. Churches get tax exemption because theyre not allowed to meddle in politics from the pulpit. If they do, theyre supposed to lose their tax exemption. This is a good thing yo

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Feb 9th 2017, 21:33:24

Ivan....


Two choices, pick one:


Choice A. Hi Robber. My name is Ivan. I don't have a gun so I can't defend myself, nor can I defend my family. Please come on in and take whatever you want and while you're at it, please treat me and my family like they treated Dr. Petit's family in CT. Once you're done raping and brutalizing my family, please feel free to kill us all. Don't forget to light our house on fire to cover your tracks. Good to speak with you while my jaw still works, glad you came by - by all means, have your way with us.

Choice B. Hi Robber. You picked the wrong house to rob. You have come here to do harm to me and my family. Why else would you be here? Unfortunately for you, I'm not a sheep. I'm a Wolf.


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Feb 9th 2017, 23:27:56

Oh child... whats it like to live in a world of fear?

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Feb 9th 2017, 23:37:02

I really don't think the separation of church and state is mentioned anywhere in the constituiton.

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Feb 10th 2017, 2:30:44

Originally posted by Dissident:
Sam danger... the separation of church and state is in the constitution. Churches get tax exemption because theyre not allowed to meddle in politics from the pulpit. If they do, theyre supposed to lose their tax exemption. This is a good thing yo


Um, what?

This statement confuses me on many levels.

1) I don't understand how it relates to anything I've said in this thread. Why was I specifically addressed?

2) Unless I'm mistaken, the closest The Constitution comes to mentioning the separation of church and state is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

3) Again, unless I'm mistaken, nowhere in The Constitution is there any prohibition against churches or their leaders engaging in political discourse. Its the other way around. The Federal Government is prohibited from interfering with the religious beliefs / expression of citizens. This is one of the many reasons that Obamacare was such a travesty, IMO. It attempted to force people of faith to violate their beliefs in order to comply with a decree from our rulers.. I mean representatives.

The founders of the US were concerned with protecting the church (any church) from the state. Not the other way around.

Edited By: SAM_DANGER on Feb 10th 2017, 2:34:04
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Feb 10th 2017, 3:18:20

ah sam... im sorry, I meant to refer to "will send missiles" my bad. Was reacting to:
"Eliminate separation of church and state- Pending - "I pledge Allegience to the Flag, an the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, One Nation Under God....." What's the wrong with this?"

You're right, in the Constitution there's nothing restricting Churches from engaging in political discourse... but the Johnson Amendment does that.

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Feb 10th 2017, 4:46:46

Originally posted by Dissident:
ah sam... im sorry, I meant to refer to "will send missiles" my bad. Was reacting to:
"Eliminate separation of church and state- Pending - "I pledge Allegience to the Flag, an the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, One Nation Under God....." What's the wrong with this?"

You're right, in the Constitution there's nothing restricting Churches from engaging in political discourse... but the Johnson Amendment does that.


Lols @ Johnson Amendment. It stops nothing. You open a 527 or a 501(c)(4) with some boiler plate legal document and a separate bank account... you are in business and no questions asked.

Stick to things Canadians know... like maple syrup, hockey, and moose fluffing.

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Feb 10th 2017, 10:05:06

we're all in this thing together


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Feb 10th 2017, 20:42:51

Originally posted by Pang:

I can't bring a bottle of water through security anymore, I need to take my shoes off and have them scanned. There's a multi-multi-billion dollar department created to stop the same kind of 9/11 stuff from happening again.

There are roughly 10x the number of deaths from guns per YEAR than there were on 9/11, yet any discussions about gun regulations or safety are rejected by the stupid logic of "why not ban knives or hands?!?!?! dur hur".

The level of discourse in the US is absolutely appalling. It's blatant hypocrisy wrapped in straw man arguments.
OMG, where to begin. This is wrong on so many levels.

Are you seriously trying to compare 1 day/incident to a whole year?

The 10x is technically correct, however trying to take total number of deaths via one cause (guns) and comparing it to another action such as violence is level of appalling discourse in of itself. You might as well said the number of deaths from autos per YEAR than there were on 9/11. It has no relevancy at all and is a poor comparison. The vast majority of the 33k deaths due to guns is suicide. Even if you assume that the remaining deaths via guns are all of violent nature (which it isnt) that would make it more 4x the number of violent deaths from guns per YEAR than there were on 9/11. (12k vs 3k). While this would be more accurate comparison, it is still wrong due to stated above, whole year compared to one day. A more realistic number would be 3x btw and imho that is not very much when you are attempting to compare whole years worth.

IF you do insist on keeping whole number of deaths via guns, since vast majority as I said are suicides, this actually makes the "why not ban knives or hands?!?!?! dur hur" statement relevant. Once someone has gone through the process or has reached state of no longer wanting to live, they are going to end their life no matter what. If they had no access to a gun, they will find some other method, such as knives, ropes, gas inhalation, pills etc. Banning a gun will not stop it, you would need to ban every other method used and is a stupid reason to even suggest banning guns. Hence the stupid question asking about banning other things. Guns is not the issue, so attempting to ban something that is not cause or reason for such actions is yes stupid, how about addressing the real problem(s) such as mostly kids with issues/problems as well as other reasons why the number of adults are wanting to commit suicide.

For the record, violent deaths in the US has steadily been decreasing every year since long before 9/11. This is true for violent deaths via guns as well.

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Feb 10th 2017, 20:51:58

Who's talking about banning guns? :|

I'm very pro-gun, but I'm also pro-safety. That also feeds into the suicide thing.

Your points aren't very convincing, but good attempt
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Feb 10th 2017, 21:33:44

Technically guess no one, just that you inferred it with your quoted statement about banning knifes etc .. that is usually when I hear such statement anyway are when someone is talking about banning guns. So sorry, yes you did not actually say that and was my mistake.

However, if you think my pointing out all the illogical comparisons you made is not convincing, than is no point talking further. I am obviously not replying to someone with an open mind and knows how to debate much. Keep trying to compare apples to oranges I guess and good luck with it.

*goes off wondering if you even know what straw mans argument even means*

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Feb 10th 2017, 22:43:56

because after adjusting the time line your point was so convincing.

There are roughly 0.03x the number of deaths from guns per day than there were on 9/11

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Feb 10th 2017, 23:40:38

I don't see what the big deal is about guns, I mean in the end we are all going to be dead anyway might as well live a little before that happens. But the most important reason not to have gun control is that so you can over throw the government should the need arise. Anyway even if you ban guns you are just going to leave good people defenseless because criminals don't follow the law in the first place. So let's just not have any gun control and focus on limiting the size of the government so that it is not tyrannical.