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LATC

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Aug 14th 2016, 14:55:04

SO.BROKEN. Fail so many ops only to see ppl w/ less SPAL, no spy tech, and weak intel allies than me when it finally goes through.

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

Marshal

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Aug 14th 2016, 15:18:04

spies aren\t broken, iyts just made so that 100 spal can fail against 1 spal.

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Serpentor

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Aug 14th 2016, 17:24:49

Hehe... And the guy with the godly spal you can get an op on the first try. Lol

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LATC

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Aug 14th 2016, 17:26:20

Originally posted by Serpentor:

Hehe... And the guy with the godly spal you can get an op on the first try. Lol

YUP! Exactly!

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

Marshal

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Aug 14th 2016, 19:23:02

Originally posted by Serpentor:

Hehe... And the guy with the godly spal you can get an op on the first try. Lol

too true.

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Aug 14th 2016, 19:24:56

Too fluffed up!

Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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KoHeartsGPA

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Aug 14th 2016, 19:44:32

And the more you have...the more you lose on failed ops...really fluffed up....

Serpentor

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Aug 14th 2016, 20:11:11

Lol. All part of the fun.

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KoHeartsGPA

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Aug 14th 2016, 20:13:32

Ya for sure ;-)

drkprinc

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Aug 14th 2016, 20:27:50

2 intel allies with 4x your spies each will double your spal :P

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Aug 14th 2016, 20:36:33

this ^

KoHeartsGPA

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Aug 14th 2016, 20:49:28

I still fail vs 5 spal...I'm at 25 spal and my allies between 20 and 25.... Doesn't make much sense....but whatever lol

Marshal

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Aug 14th 2016, 20:57:17

normal spy on 1st attempt, ally spy takes 5+ turns.

Serpentor

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Aug 14th 2016, 21:03:59

Lol yeah the worst....

You think you all stealthy ninja on the op, then the ally op busts you. Dang better hurry up my calculating.

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KoHeartsGPA

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Aug 14th 2016, 21:15:21

5 turns = about 60k dead spies...ridiculously expensive.

Marshal

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Aug 14th 2016, 21:40:36

Originally posted by Serpentor:

Lol yeah the worst....

You think you all stealthy ninja on the op, then the ally op busts you. Dang better hurry up my calculating.

not forgetting that you need to view that spyop to see target's weapons tech unless you are good at calcuiating how high weapontech target has based on weaptech points and land.

Serpentor

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Aug 14th 2016, 22:38:13

I play from my phone sice iphones came out. I got it down to a science of screen shots now:
-spy country (screen shot)
-calculate defense (screen shot)
-spy allies (screen shot)
-calc ally assistance (screen shot)
-calc total break +10% and let the dogs out.

My photos is full of screen shots of calculator screens and op screens. Lol

Comes in handy since you can keep record of who got def bonus' where in game doesn't.

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KoHeartsGPA

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Aug 15th 2016, 0:36:01

Good stuff, Serp 👍

LATC

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Aug 15th 2016, 2:10:30

and then if you fail a few ops it compounds and you're effed for days/weeks

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

Serpentor

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Aug 15th 2016, 7:53:57

Not as an Indy.

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Relax lah

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Aug 15th 2016, 10:09:03

easy fix, build 3000 indies lol

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Aug 16th 2016, 1:19:52

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:

5 turns = about 60k dead spies...ridiculously expensive.

Forces more emphasis on indies. Too many people expect good spy results and to keep good SPAL at higher acres with only subpar production builds.

Edited By: Primeval on Aug 16th 2016, 2:03:50

Cable

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Aug 16th 2016, 1:50:28

Originally posted by Relax lah:

easy fix, build 3000 indies lol

3k indies doenst help ive had 2500 since hitting 15k and still cant keep up enough spy production

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Aug 16th 2016, 4:31:57

lol grab more commies and keep the indy buildings then :p

LATC

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Aug 16th 2016, 4:41:13

Originally posted by Relax lah:

lol grab more commies and keep the indy buildings then :p

I haven't knocked down any indy's all set, building more spies is not the answer when a high spal can fail 10x in a row on a low spal

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

humicroav

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Aug 16th 2016, 15:28:12

I suck at spies.

ur mom playz erf2025

Ti annichilisco

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Aug 21st 2016, 2:17:19

Originally posted by Serpentor:

I actually play out of laptop, have a big spreadsheet with all the players stats from my spying as they disappear after few days. And another tab with all the attacks made.

You build very useful knowledge even over sets, you can figure patterns of attacks costs and gains and how different players evolve over time, comes very useful to maximize attack gains and improve the strategy.

If you're willing to invest the time

stanrools

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Aug 21st 2016, 3:18:24

thats quite abit father then i went but i do have a spred sheet with all of the calculations i need for attacking so all i have to do is enter the troops turrets tanks and other defense bonuses alliance tech government and such then as easy as that fire off the jets!

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KoHeartsGPA

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Aug 21st 2016, 3:27:15

Nerds....

RMcCourt

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Aug 21st 2016, 3:48:45

Ti, all you have to do is hit the save icon in your spy center and it will keep the report for the remainder of the set.

Relax lah

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Aug 21st 2016, 11:45:09

But ti would establish a pattern of how u play over several sets... Omg!

randus711

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Aug 21st 2016, 13:12:08

Back in the old days you could actually run a strictly spy country and be a force to be reckoned with! I miss some of the programming from days gone by.

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Aug 21st 2016, 19:39:01

Originally posted by Relax lah:

But ti would establish a pattern of how u play over several sets... Omg!

Just for that im gonna randomly for no reason whatsoever going to gran him...

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Aug 21st 2016, 19:45:16

Your forces invaded Ti Annichilisco (#11)!
They broke through the defender's defences!

They took:
3785 Acres(5402 Gained)
1617 Buildings(3785 Destroyed)
169,660 Bushels
$5
71,957 Technology Points

Marshal

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Aug 21st 2016, 20:00:14

5 bucks, kohn00b is rich now.

KoHeartsGPA

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Aug 21st 2016, 20:07:21

71,957 × $1800 + $5 = $129,522,605

:P

Marshal

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Aug 21st 2016, 20:29:27

bit less since can't sell techs under 40 points.

drkprinc

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Aug 22nd 2016, 4:32:38

all you peeps using a spreadsheet for something simple :P

I use a notepad

User to attack (#xx) Defense boost here
troops 1
turrets 2
tanks 4

total x weapons x gov x def bonus, Mod Defense

Allies
Ally user 1 (#xx) Total boost of points here 1
troops / 4
turrets / 2
tanks =

Ally user 2 (#xx) Total boost of points here 2
troops / 4
turrets / 2
tanks =

I add up user mod defense plus ally 1 and ally 2 then multiply by 1.15 (mehul,qz,pang)

takes me more time to get the ops then it does using numpad and windows calculator to add up points

Edited By: drkprinc on Aug 22nd 2016, 4:35:02

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Serpentor

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Aug 23rd 2016, 6:46:45

You use a note pad?

I just take a screenshot of my iphone calculator.

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Aug 23rd 2016, 6:54:04

Pfft...I just wait for my brain to say "close enough" and click send!

Marshal

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Aug 23rd 2016, 14:20:52

no wonder kohn00b fails that much.

Serpentor

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Aug 23rd 2016, 19:34:11

Lol

I do that when drinking sometimes... That's where the odd DH come from.

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Aug 23rd 2016, 19:52:25

absolutely everything in Windows calculator. Spy on allies add it up then copy to clipboard, return to target op add it up times the weapons or gov bonus then add ally defense from clipboard then times 1.1 divide by weap science or gov bonus. Attack success 99.12%

Serpentor

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Aug 24th 2016, 3:52:11

I think if I played from a pc I'd probably use an actual pen and paper notepad as I used to way back in the day. Since iPhones I've never used a computer to play, not to mention stop using computers all together for that matter. Lol

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KoHeartsGPA

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Aug 24th 2016, 5:35:30

Ya i havent touched a cpu in years.....wow...lol...havent thought of that til now.....

drkprinc

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Aug 24th 2016, 10:37:23

well there are people who don't understand how def allies work and oversend crazy for it

I shouldn't say anything and let them sift through threads and threads and threads across all forums but simple is.

Country total defense x gov bonus x weapons + def allies = break.
if they have defense bonus from vote points add that in before adding allies.

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drkprinc

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Aug 24th 2016, 10:38:22

also same goes for intel allies, your gov bonus and tech don't affect your allies spies.

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Marshal

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Aug 24th 2016, 13:36:20

def bonus shows only on spying screen not in viewed op so its easy to forget it.

Marshal

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Aug 24th 2016, 13:36:21

nvm

drkprinc

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Aug 24th 2016, 14:34:52

lol take note of it or copy it somewhere before going to spy on their allies :P

or don't I rather people not even notice my def bonus -_-

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