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Marshal Game profile

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Sep 16th 2014, 20:58:28

more units you send more land (ghosties) you get so oversending benefits, i'm sure some smart kid has calced when sending more units doesn't benefit vs gains and cost of jets and oil.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

LATC Game profile

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Sep 16th 2014, 21:00:11

Originally posted by Marshal:
more units you send more land (ghosties) you get so oversending benefits, i'm sure some smart kid has calced when sending more units doesn't benefit vs gains and cost of jets and oil.


Pretty sure this isn't true anymore.
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?

Marshal Game profile

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Sep 16th 2014, 21:12:57

if qz has changed it then he hasn't announced it.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 17th 2014, 4:19:51

I have been under the impression that over sends help ghosts since I came back, and it seems to work out. When I cut it close I don't get much ghost and when I oversend I double up the land on ghost.

LATC Game profile

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Sep 17th 2014, 4:42:44

WHAT?! All this time I've been missing out on ghost acres?!?!?
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 17th 2014, 4:46:58

I have had some grabs where my turn reply said fluff like 199 acres (425 gained), so I am guessing overspending works.

Zorp Game profile

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Sep 17th 2014, 7:39:14

To max GA, send this many units:

.068*(.57 for Dict, .43 for all other govs)*(1 for SS, 1.5 for PS)*(MilStrat, 126%=1.26 etc)*TargetLand*YourLand/20

I'm not sure if/how Tyranny's extra 20% factors in. I'm also not sure if this is units in power sent (jet equiv) or raw units sent, but I always send only jets and it works like a charm.

Edited By: Zorp on Sep 17th 2014, 9:08:56

Xinhuan Game profile

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Sep 17th 2014, 9:04:25

You guys sure don't read announcements, it's been about 3 months:

Originally posted by qzjul:

4) Ghost acres cap based on units sent

- In each attack, you will be limited to a maximum 1 Ghost Acre (type I) per (your_land/20) units sent.
- Example I: You are 20k Acres; Land/20 = 1000; thus, for every 1000 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 20kA with 200k units, get 2000A + 200A ghosts (because 200k/1000 = 200)

- Example II: You are 20k Acres; Land/20 = 1000; thus, for every 1000 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 20kA with 2M units, get 2000A + normal ghosts (because 2M/1000 = 2000 ghosts, and you can't get 2000A ghosts from this grab)

- Example III: You are 100 Acres; Land/20 = 5; thus, for every 5 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 400A with 50 units, get 40A + 10A ghosts (because 50/5 = 10)

- Example IV: You are 100 Acres; Land/20 = 5; thus, for every 5 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 400A with 500 units, get 40A + normal ghosts (because 500/5 = 100, and you can't get 100A ghosts from this grab)

- Example V: You are 80k Acres; Land/20 = 4000; thus, for every 4000 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 80k with 100k units, get 8000A + 25A ghosts (because 100000/4000 = 25)

- Example VI: You are 80k Acres; Land/20 = 4000; thus, for every 4000 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 80k with 12M units, get 8000A + 3000A ghosts (because 12000000/4000 = 3000)

- Example VII: You are 80k Acres; Land/20 = 4000; thus, for every 4000 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 80k with 20M units, get 8000A + normal ghosts (because 20000000/4000 = 5000 and you can't get that many ghosts from this grab)


- Reasoning for this change: Makes land trading slightly more expensive, cracks down on obvious abuse; should boost military kept on hand, thus reducing suiciders; may boost troop market slightly.


For the most purposes, your amount of ghosts acres obtained will not be any different from usual, unless your target is an all-jetter.

Zorp Game profile

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Sep 17th 2014, 9:15:45

In Vic's defense, he's been back around a month after a long hiatus.

Serpentor Game profile

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Sep 17th 2014, 11:21:06

I can't read...
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LATC Game profile

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Sep 17th 2014, 13:06:53

I just write diary entries.
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?

LATC Game profile

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Sep 17th 2014, 13:48:27

So wait whats the max ghost acres one can get from a grab then?
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?

SAM_DANGER Game profile

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Sep 17th 2014, 14:51:39

SAME AS IT WAS BEFORE, I THINK (AROUND 100% FOR BOTTOMFEED HITS?) BUT SUBJECT TO THE NEW UNITS-SENT-BASED LIMITS

Xinhuan Game profile

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Sep 18th 2014, 15:50:30

Dear Diary,

Why are the techers not teching Agriculture which sells for $2900, and instead prefer to tech Res/Bus that sell for $2400? The same thing happened last reset.

- Xinhuan

SkyKing Game profile

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Sep 18th 2014, 16:13:24

Dear Diary,

Must start researching agriculture after I'm satisfied with my MS&W. I don't know I feel like I might see.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Edited By: SkyKing on Sep 18th 2014, 16:17:39
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VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 18th 2014, 18:41:32

Are you kidding? I am teching more agri than anything else. People are afraid to deviate from their preconceptions to fit set conditions, and also they like their per turn income to be green instead of red.

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 18th 2014, 18:41:56

I am moving lots of indy tech too.

silentwolf Game profile

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Sep 19th 2014, 3:39:36

have an empty tech slot .. any techer available ?

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 20th 2014, 0:18:12

Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Dear Diary,

Why are the techers not teching Agriculture which sells for $2900, and instead prefer to tech Res/Bus that sell for $2400? The same thing happened last reset.

- Xinhuan


I see your evil plan. You're a farmer aren't you? It worked, you fiend.

SkyKing Game profile

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Sep 20th 2014, 2:23:57

Dear Diary,

After selling Ag tech for nice coin, I turned around and bought the farmers food for cheap. His production must have mysteriously improved.

-SkyKing

oldman Game profile

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Sep 20th 2014, 2:36:19

Dear Diary,

I think people should start building oil rigs soon. Prices hit $200 in the last 72 hours. And we're just past the 2 weeks mark of the set.

- oldman

Xinhuan Game profile

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Sep 20th 2014, 16:20:40

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
I see your evil plan. You're a farmer aren't you? It worked, you fiend.


Of course I'm a farmer. Considering I use the same country name every reset, it's not exactly a secret what I am running.

eManny Game profile

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Sep 20th 2014, 17:59:15

Dear Diary,

We're in dire need of cashers this round ;)

crest23 Game profile

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Sep 21st 2014, 19:16:10

Retal on Vic will be devastating.
The Nigerian Nightmare.

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 21st 2014, 21:13:43

Oh, who did I hit? I haven't hit anyone within 2m nw of me I don't think...

LATC Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 13:12:25

Dictator's Log
9/22/2014

Building constructions sites is soooo boring. I can't wait to start conquering other people's land full time. Soon all will hail the lil azn that could!

-LATC
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?

Xinhuan Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 13:29:14

> lil azn that could!

So you could, but now cannot?

blid

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Sep 22nd 2014, 15:47:55

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
Oh, who did I hit? I haven't hit anyone within 2m nw of me I don't think...

You hit Xinhuan. It doesn't matter if he's within 2m nw of you; farmers won't be at this stage, but if they have 100k ag tech and are actively attacking, it's probably a good idea to avoid them. Maybe it will be hard for him to retal you immediately, but that's normal for a farmer and he could still retal you when you start stocking and food prices go up.
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Xinhuan Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 16:27:09

Hi Vic, a retal will be coming your way some time between now and 42 days from now. :)

LATC Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 16:52:11

Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?

blid

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Sep 22nd 2014, 17:05:31

So there's a single big rep casher. Well
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Wotan Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 17:55:18

Wow

SethMosrite Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 18:45:00

Vic, I owe you 1, let me know when you start stocking.

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 18:49:02

Hmm, who are you? Don't worry, I'm just gonna keep growing lol

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 18:49:23

I am getting an awful lot of threats from you people. Someone in game told me he was going to retal final week.

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 19:18:15

My suggestion to you folks is, instead of getting amped up to retal my country because I don't try to conceal who I am and don't try to slow play, focus on doing things that will help you ascend the score ranks. Just a thought.

LATC Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 19:24:07

Guys grab him sooner, maybe even go to war with him, especially if you're a techer too!! =P
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?

SkyKing Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 19:32:29

Seems like war....

(•_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)

is in season.

Serpentor Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 19:55:00

Back from my trip. Time to get my country back in order and use the stored turns. Weeee... Another lackluster set for EEVIL. Maybe I should change to casher. Lol
The EEVIL Empire

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 20:20:35

Originally posted by LATC:
Guys grab him sooner, maybe even go to war with him, especially if you're a techer too!! =P


LOL You're next. :P

SkyKing Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 20:28:01

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
Originally posted by LATC:
Guys grab him sooner, maybe even go to war with him, especially if you're a techer too!! =P


LOL You're next. :P


Sounds like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i3X8RM1tLo

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 20:31:44

Ugh, failed even after I calced it out. Damn mehul factor.

Or maybe I was being chintzy not buying more jets lol

Marshal Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 20:36:54

panqz-factor.

its easy to fail grab, sending too little or too close to actual break when risk to fail increases, calcing allies wrong, not adding def bonus, etc.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 20:44:07

You know, I forgot to look and see if he had def bonus. I always just figure max Def ally bonus when I calc.

Marshal Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 21:31:20

and many forgot to add dict bonus.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 21:52:22

Naw, I always calc the govt bonus.

LATC Game profile

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Sep 22nd 2014, 22:10:02

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
Originally posted by LATC:
Guys grab him sooner, maybe even go to war with him, especially if you're a techer too!! =P


LOL You're next. :P


haha no need, only a matter of time until I TF/MF the wrong guy
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Are you guys stupid or what?

Xinhuan Game profile

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Sep 23rd 2014, 0:35:31

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
My suggestion to you folks is, instead of getting amped up to retal my country because I don't try to conceal who I am and don't try to slow play, focus on doing things that will help you ascend the score ranks. Just a thought.


I'm not concealing anything, my country is To The Top. Same name for a year. It's pretty tough to ascend when food is $33! The per-acre production per turn is about 30% less than a casher.

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 23rd 2014, 2:52:07

Oh crap, I grabbed Xin?

You keep acting like I should know things that I don't know. This is my first primary set in 5 years. I am just trying to stay where your name says I should lol

I feel like I need to make myself a 10M jet PS break for max weap dicts by morning now lol

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Sep 23rd 2014, 2:53:13

By the way, I have thoroughly enjoyed your cheap food, and your continual buying of my tech. I will use the land to make more agri for you, promise! Haha