You're exactly right, Super. The last thread was a bad look, so I needed to updated everyone. We have increased from 120 attacks to 516. That's a more than 300% increase in attacks, and it was all inspired by you!!!

As for us rolling into the sunset, I think you missed the part where I said, and have been saying, we aren't going anywhere. For two rounds now Darkness et al., have been singing the tune of 'they will be gone from the game soon'. I'm fairly certain after last round we were supposed to disband, no?

I'm honored to know we've earned another two rounds in your mind! That's insanely huge progress, we must be doing something right.


The reality is we've done nothing but grow. So maybe speak to our demise once we've actually... I don't know, started demising?

SFBob - You're so amazingly awesome and wise. So I ask you - how does one get good at the game without playing the game and trying stuff?


You do realize that this entire war, every loss we take, every victory we make, it's us 'gettin good' as you put it. It's called practice. Now unless your Allen Iverson, you shouldn't be disparaging practice.


As to why anyone would join our 'misguided' team? Uh... have you not been paying attention. It's because of all my awesome propaganda, and the fact that people hate Darkness. Ya'll do more for my recruiting efforts than I ever could, simply by responding on these threads. That's why I post!! I need more Darkness engagement. Your attention is like fuel to The Resistance.


Bring on the hate. Bathe me in it. It feels soooo goood!

Cause you're into weird escorts.

In the previous threads someone mentioned that this was the most one sided war they'd seen in awhile, that Darkness has shown their greatness, and that they hope The Resistance comes back next round and tries again.


This comment assumes the war is over. It is not. I have said it again and again, we are here to stay. We are not backing down. And our countries being destroyed doesn't bother us, as we are color-blind.

Tonight we proved just that. #11 has been reduced to just 300 buildings.


Now on that note, I would like to point out something to anyone else who may not know this. Apparently you cannot kill someone with AB attacks.


I really wish someone had told me that prior to tonight, we had blood in our eyes and were looking for that kill!


That's alright. We have once again learned a valuable lesson, and we will continue to grow from there.


Now onto the Thrill - The Resistance is openly recruiting. In fact, not only are we opening recruiting any new players who want to learn the game and get involved. We are openly recruiting members from current teams that are established. Are you bored of the same old netting? Have you always wanted to fight Darkness, but didn't have a crew that had the stones to do it? Are you just a loose cannon that wants to go chaos mode?

Then this is the place for you. The Resistance continues to grow. This round is not over, and next round we will be even stronger. Now is the time to get in. If you're a vet, you can fill a valuable role by helping us learn that AB's do not kill countries (and likely many other things).

The Resistance is like a rookie first round draft pick from the NFL. Yea, they are gonna get burned once or twice in coverage their first year. But the talent is undeniable, the youth, the heart, it's all there. And in a few years (rounds) we will be perennial pro bowlers.


Hit me up in game or on here to join up and learn how you can help!

I agree with this. No point in having a team tag if it means nothing. Let's just remove the limit.

Makes perfect sense. Thanks Coalie.

Oh. Is that what I need, a translator? Cause my brain hurts right now trying to figure out what the fluff he just said.

Gotta have team. If not, my life will be incomplete.

Never played Earth 2025. I started here in... what late November I think? First time I've ever played.

Oh my.

Thank you Derrick. Those are super helpful answers. That really sheds some light on the strategy I've been seeing.

So I have three questions I can't quite seem to figure out.

1. Is there a formula for attack losses? I know there is a formula for attack/defense strength, but if I'm looking to break someones defense by doing as much damage to his defenses, what's the best way to do that? Overwhelming force? Equal force? Smaller force, but many times?

2. Are there any tricks to keeping readiness high or regaining readiness aside from using turns in between attacks? I think attacking with a smaller percentage of my available force is one way, but is there an ideal percentage to attack with?

3. How is the amount of damage inflicted calculated. An example: Myself and a teammate were doing AB's today. My attacks getting through were destroying 50-60 buildings a pop, his were only destroying 20. And he was attacking with more tanks than I was. How is that calculated?

Thanks for the offer, Symbolic.

I'd say keep your eyes open and inspire confidence, Kohearts - but I don't to be accused of bragging before I've done anything. sfbob might get annoyed with me again.

On our side... right?

Well then you should expect amazing things from me next round. And stop insulting my team, cause it's obvious this war result was all a part of our plan.

Req - The nato rant was an analogy.

KoHearts - You're right. I'm a 10 year vet that attacked Darkness right as they came out of protection, wasted my turns doing AB's destroying 8 buildings at a time. That was all misdirection to make people think I suck, so that I could... surprise them next round with my amazing skills!

Thanks igor. I appreciate you giving me permission to play the game the way I want.

So I guess that is what it's really about... Interesting.

Dude Req - no. I'm not. Why do you keep asking me that?

sfbob - what do you mean 'play the game properly'?

There isn't a proper way to play the game. If I want to net, I net. If I want to war, I war. If I want to suicide, I suicide. If I want to rainbow, I rainbow. And if I want to build 10k oil rigs and become Venezuela, well I can do that too.

So what in the fluff are you talking about 'annoying for people who want to play the game properly'.


Is that what this is all about? Does the fact that we picked a fight with someone annoy you?

Ohhhhhhhh, I see.

Yes, I am new to the game. Perhaps you missed the multiple posts where I stated as much. I've been VERY upfront about that.

And I'm sorry - I see there is some serious confusion here. I'm going to try to clear things up.


In the other threads that you clearly didn't read, I indicated (at the onset) that my posts were propaganda and not meant to be taken seriously or personally.

Now propaganda is something that people will use to try to influence the minds of others. Sometimes its disinformation, sometimes it's hyperbole, sometimes it bravado, and sometimes its statements meant to garner sympathy or cause outrage.

That's what I've been doing. You guys don't really think that I, a self admitted new player, with a smaller team, and a lack of access to sophisticated tools, were under the illusion that we were going to come in and take down a clan that's been together for 20 years, do you?

You must have a reaaalllly low opinion of me, if you thought I truly believed that.


Let me be super clear for you. My posts are PROPAGANDA. Ask Tertius about it, he understands.


And in terms of the why. It's really simple. To grow. My team started with 3 people who met in tournament C. We are all new. We got steamrolled our first round in team, and realized it was 10+ against 3. So I set a goal to grow. And grow we have. We have about 10 members now. That is success my friends. You guys see us losing a war we were never meant to win, and you're out here screaming about your victory.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what is happening. We are growing and we are learning. We've learned a LOT this round. And we've more than tripled in size. You see our countries being destroyed and think "wow, look at these noobs, I bet they are crying".

Meanwhile, our countries are being destroyed and we are saying "what did we do wrong, how do we do better, and who else can we recruit to our efforts".


Ya know - taking a step away from the propaganda for a moment and being real with everyone, it's a damn shame there is so much misunderstanding in here. I really thought I was clear with everyone when I specifically stated I was engaging in propaganda. I was kicked from mercs/darkness less than 24 hours after I joined due to a misunderstanding of my rhetoric. Maybe it's because of my time playing other games (tribal wars back in the day) that openly engaged in propaganda and political maneuvering, but I figured a game played by adults (presumably) and people who had likely been exposed to this sort of thing in the past, would understand what is happening.



Guys - take a step back. IT'S A GAME. I know I'm new. I know Darkness has played together for 20 years. I know they have access to private tools that give them a huge leg up on the competition. I know they've developed tactics over 2 decades that are battle tested. I know they are one of the best warring teams there is. I know that it's a huge task for a gang of new players to come in and fundamentally change the way the game is played.

I know all of this. I'm not an idiot, despite what some of you may think.

The thing is, I don't care about all those things. I'm here for a challenge, which I clearly have. I don't care if I 'lose'. I care about what I can build and to have a good time. I'm already having a good time, this has been a blast. And what we are building has been great so far. A few vets have joined us, a few newer people. Good group of guys, and I cant wait to see how it continues to grow.




Now hopefully sfbob, and some of you other people, ya'll have a better understanding of where I'm coming from.






REQUIEM - I've created a TL:DR for you buddy: This game is fun and I'm just having fun. I don't think I'm the best Earth player ever. And I'm not as dumb as some of you may think I am.

Right. Are you just trying to get a bonus right now. Is that why you posted that. Or was this a failed attempt at contributing to the conversation?

Can you give me more information about ghq. Ya'll booted me from Mercs prior to me really learning anything. I know that reports upload to ghq, but I don't really know to make use of them.


Also - I think it's pretty obvious that the tools that are open to the public aren't the problem, and I think you know that. I'm not complaining, but if you're going to bring up this subject, I'm going to make sure it's framed correctly.

You realize that when this war started, I didn't even know what website existed, right?


And I think you're confusing trash talking with propaganda. There seems to be a lack of understanding of what I am doing here by some, but that's not surprising.

I'm pretty sure you guys predicted we wouldn't even be playing at this point in the round.

Let me ask you a question. Is the fact that Darkness, with all their tools, killed a bunch of newer players, supposed to impress people?

Because you are saying it like it's impressive. Which is very confusing to me. Do you know what an underdog is?

These are great questions. I wish you hadn't asked them.


*edit*

Oh, I have an answer!

They are guardians to NATO, but bullies to all the small countries and individuals. See, perfect logic.

I already told you, we are from mars. Try to keep up, Req.

Then you need to open your eyes and come out from under your rock. You think revolutions happen in a day? You think resistances don't take losses? That's what makes a resistance so powerful, the will to take those losses.

As The Resistance grows, so does our ability to impose our will. There is a 4 page thread about our existence and actions in this round. The impact we've had has been larger than anything else that has been done this round. A member of Fast Cars went from being borderline top 10 to 35th this round due to our actions in a proof of concept attack.

I keep receiving private communication from players in the community expressing their support for our movement. Oh, and Darkness hasn't done fluff other than tussle with us all round. We've literally rendered them useless. Darkness has presented to us all that they are the guardians of various teams. But how can they guard fluff when they are using all their turns and resources beating back The Resistance?


They cannot. And the team server see's this. The door is open for anyone to do anything, as the bullies of the server are not able take their eyes off of The Resistance.



And again, the most important thing. Resistances grow in time. We are in the very early stages of this Resistance.

But yes, you're right. We are 'dropping like flies'. I've never seen so many people pay attention to flies this much, though.

Tertius - thank you for that info. That actually does sound interesting. I'm grateful for this explanation, as I believe it may be the info I need to understand what strings need to be pulled. Apparently we aren't all just peace/loving individuals, and politics is at play here.


I like politics. I like negotiations. Now that I know what people are motivated by, I know how to take it away, or help others achieve it.


To all the clans out there that are actually fighting for the triple crown as Tertius has explained it. Reach out to me. The Resistance can be a tool to achieve your goals, if you want. Or we can be used as a tool against you. Or maybe we're just tools.

Either way, we are in your server, and we won't be ignored, as I think everyone can clearly see.

SFbob, that's like saying Greece and Germany aren't in an alliance together.

Yea, technically they are different countries. But they are both in NATO, and they are both in the European Union.


Don't act like 80% of this server isn't in NATO together. When I see you all attack each other, I'll believe it's not NATO. Until then, you're all fluffing NATO, and my boys are aliens from mars. And we gonna probe that ass!

The effort is admirable, Coalie. You're clever, a great story teller, and have very clearly insulted me.

And I don't give a fuuuuuuucccckkkkk. I'm still gonna come at that ass, over and over and over. Get used to it.

What are you talking about? The countries you've killed are back. You think just cause you cause one to go red we are done?

We are like phoenixes. You can't ever kill us, you can only fight us endlessly.

Woah, that's aggressive. LOL

I was offered a spot in Mercs. I made it clear I planned on continuing to fight Darkness in team. We all agreed that was fine, and in fact I think you guys told me you encouraged that.

Yea - I was definitely joining you guys to learn from you. And of course I'm going to take what I learned and put it into action in my other games, why would I not?

I'm not sure why this was a surprise? I understand if ya'll don't want to teach me. No hard feelings. But I don't feel like I was unclear about my intentions, whatsoever.

As far as us losing 3 members... are you talking about countries that have been destroyed? Yea. I think that was the expected outcome at the onset though, wasn't it?

sfbob - maybe you're not being a jerk and I'm just misconstruing your words. Who knows? I'm not perfect and might be making a judgement error here.


Also, just for the record. thestupid isn't on our team. He was last round... I think? I don't really know, we only had a few people, and we didn't really know each other. Either way, I don't really know him. I think he's the guy that messaged me last round yelling at me about getting us killed and saying he'd never play with us again, lol.

Why don't you just join us then? Maybe you can give us that vet presence we need? I guarantee you'll have fun! I like people who are 'men of extremes'. I think you'd add that edge we need!

KoHearts - I'm gonna throw this out there. And I think it's going to resonate... cause I think you're a lot like me.


Why don't you switch sides. Why don't you come join The Resistance.

sfbob - my posts aren't bravado, they are propaganda, which I very clearly outlined in one of my first posts here.

The difference is that I'm attempting to rile people up with the sole focus of creating more activity, recruiting people to this server, and attempting to be a catalyst for fun.

You, my friend, are simply thumping your chest and explaining how you'll steamroll me and anyone else who tries anything you don't like, over and over again.

I'm trying to create activity and fun. You're just being a jerk.



And if sfbob is mad cause he's in fastcars and we hit one of theirs... Well GOOD. I'm glad he's mad then. It means we did something right.

See I gotta be honest. This post pisses me off a bit.

In fact, a lot of the replies here do.


Yes, I realize in the last 10 years ya'll have been playing the game I'm probably not the first one to have the idea of forcing action. There are only so many things you can do in this game, so I'd imagine everything has been tried.

I also take issue with the words suiciders and forum crybabies.

1. No one is trying to suicide fluff. If you didn't notice, The Resistance had built up a bunch of strong countries and we warred our best.

2. No one is fluffing crying. So stop with that bullfluff.


I also take major issue with the threats 'we'll do the same to you, over and over again'.

Yea - I get it. Ya'll have been doing this a long time, and have some pretty sophisticated tools to use to your advantage. My crew doesn't have access to IRC bots that tell us when attacks are occuring, texts our phones, or auto calculates breakpoints.

But let's tone down the bravado a bit here. You can be good, without being an asshole. And you're really pushing that line, I think.


And if you think for one moment that your threats are going to scare me off whatever plan I come up with next, you're mistaken. I don't care how many times I get smashed, I like the challenge.

The purpose of me joining Darkness in alliance is two fold.

1. I was invited. Players were being nice to me, and I thought it'd be fun. I enjoy the game and I enjoy building friendships.

2. I figured the best way to beat my enemy is to learn how they are beating me. What better way than to roll with them a few rounds and learn how they do it. It won't hurt.


But any of you who think I'm just rolling over and surrendering because I joined up with them in alliance hasn't been paying attention.

My issues with them are on team. And my goals are on team. And I haven't wavered from those goals.

So send your fluffing kill runs. Let me get some practice in against that fluff. And get ready to run it back again next round, cause I'm not going anywhere.

Uh... you guys are gonna train me. And I'm gonna crush all the vets and tagged people. And train all the untags and newbies to do the same. LOL.

I should add this - what's the alternative?

Before The Resistance, if I'm not mistaken, Darkness would simply hit/kill any individuals or small groups that decided to attack literally anyone on the server. That was how they found their combat.

Here's the problem. That just runs the small guy/new players away.

What you're left with is a warring group of people looking for a fight, but not willing to fight anyone who has been around for awhile, which is 90% of team server. 90% of the server not wanting to fight, partly cause they'll get wrecked by Darkness if they do. And 10% of new people/small people never standing a chance, playing a round, and leaving, cause that wasn't fun.


That's what I'm trying to solve with The Resistance.

Tmac - Darkness has actually been pretty great, and invited me in to join them on alliance. They are open to teaching me and letting me learn how to war.

I'll be honest, my first thought was wow. We never stood a chance. The tools they use are sophisticated as fluff. We use discord.

They have tools that calculate break points, send them text messages when they start getting attacked, and all kinds of other stuff.

Strategy and skill aside, we are at a distinct disadvantage due to the tools they have. Not complaining, just giving an observation.

Cats opinion on wanting more warring clans is great. He also raises the problem of not everyone wanting to be as available and intense about warring as Darkness is. I think that's a really great observation. Most of us are probably adults, with adult responsibilities. This game is cool cause you can play for 5 minutes here or there. Unless you're warring Darkness. Then you need to have all these tools, get text messages if you get attacked, etc.


Perhaps the solution is a lower level of war. One that doesn't use tools. Maybe that's where The Resistance comes in? We might not be able to go toe to toe with Darkness. But - we did hold our own for awhile, and made them work a little bit for it.

We also executed a hit on a FastCars member last night and I think we messed her game up pretty good. I felt bad, but it was a proof of concept for us, and allowed us to practice.

Perhaps The Resistance's goal won't be to fight Darkness head to head. But to force the rest of team server to fight. I know most people want to net. But maybe that's not an option. Maybe you'll have to fight sometimes. I know Darkness will attack us if we attack others. But that's just the price we might have to pay to force interaction between other people.

Perhaps we act like terrorists? Threaten netters with us attacking/suiciding on them if they don't attack/get involved with another team in some way. Basically force interaction under the threat of us bringing it if they don't do it willingly themselves.

And yes, we won't win in team. But I think we've proven we can do damage to people.

Is that what our role is ultimately destined to become?

What do the bonus points do?

Was it awesome, KoHearts?

What in the fluff is this thread? Have you all lost your minds? Had aneurysms?

What am I missing?

There is a Mars 2025 game?!?? Do people still play? Maybe Mars needs a resistance too.

I UNDERSTAND NOTHING - THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND YOU!!!

Are you joking?

We are doing just fine. Darkness is definitely throwing a lot of fluff at us. And yea, we've taken our licks.

But take for example Solar Flare.

They took down a few hundred buildings, and took down about 50k tanks.

They spent about 150k tanks doing it, lost a good 4k spies, and how many turns?


All to what? Cause Solar Flare to have to waste not even half as many turns putting some buildings back up.

I've been told Darkness is the biggest/baddest kid on the block. They haven't lost a war in a decade. They can 1v2 other veteran teams.


And they are struggling with this rag-tag bunch of Resistance members. I guess good job, Darkness. Keep up the good effort. In time, I think you guys might be able to get there.

Don't take too much time though. The Resistance grows stronger everyday. Learns more everyday. Compare us this round to last, it's night and day. Wait till next round!

Thanks for the post, Tertius. That's very interesting.

I'm gonna have to find a way to mix up the metagame.