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Apr 1st 2024, 14:10:38

This thread has gone sideways.....

Still avoiding the elephant in the room......
We have strayed from the original Earth 2025 and with each passing change (intended to increase player base), the player base has declined.
I am not into this whole community thing. I just come here to play a game. How are we supposed to recruit new players into a community that just wants to spend a few minutes/day hitting bots. I have recruited folks that won't stay for more than a day or two. They say it is too boring. Even online Chess matches require strategy. Chess requires offense and defense and sometimes you lose.....but like EE, you get to restart.
Make a server that leans on the original Earth 2025 and let's see what happens. Too many of you old folks no longer want to play that style of game. Real Life keeps you busy. Changes made to fit your current style of play will only result in the same old players from set to set.
Think aboout it.....old timers only return for war then leave when it goes back to just hitting bots.

Still waiting on P WeeZy to confirm.

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Apr 1st 2024, 13:38:29

Originally posted by Requiem:
If I am unwelcome in the game, permanently ban my account, and that is that. I will not make a new account.

I will resort to only bonus posting until further notice.


Don't let the door hit your azz on the way out.

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Apr 1st 2024, 13:37:35

Originally posted by Coalie:
As someone that has financially contributed to the game (EE Patron next to my name), I have a small stake investment in the game.

slagpit,

I vote to free Chevs unless there are evidence that points to why he should incur as lifetime ban. All I see is "he said she said hearsay" on why he was banned. You want to attract more players to the game, seems counter-intuitive to ban existing players. Especially one that keeps the game interesting.

From what I've seen from Chevs since he returned to the game, he hasn't done anything that I considered to be atrocious in nature enough to incur a lifetime ban.


Why couldn't you just make a country and fight him instead?



Just because you wasted your money, does not give you a better stake in this game :P
Just shows that you met the game quota under the ADA.

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Mar 30th 2024, 11:56:43

Originally posted by SirJouster:
Originally posted by Slagpit:
I'll be a bit argumentative again. When exactly was this golden age of player to player interaction? I first played on alliance around 2004. I remember alliances heavily pacting out and most countries doing all-X or only hitting untagged countries. I also remember land:land becoming the standard retal policy. Players themselves are the ones who were always pushing for less interaction. Just look at what happened to the team server. The last time I looked there was essentially zero landgrabs. Some clans even boasted about their 1:kill policies.

We aren't advertising because we don't have a good enough product yet. A few folks were kind enough to answer my question about what makes the alliance server special and they said that playing with friends is fun. But that's just a property of the server. Nearly any multiplayer team-based game will have that feature. No one said "it's fun to play with your friends to compete for average NW", "it's fun to win a war with your friends", or "it's fun to create a new clan with your friends and to politically outmaneuver other clans". That's a big problem in terms of player retention.

I think that when players advocate for chaos, they imagine themselves being on the giving end of chaos and other players being on the receiving end of it. In many cases that's only going to be fun for one party.


IMHO, the golden age was probably 1998-2003ish. The game saw several changes during that period as did the player base. The culture on the server started changing around 2002 with many wanting a heavy focus on netting and by this time every major alliance had turn by turn strats that proliferated throughout the community.

It was fun to be a part of an alliance, help it grow and help teach and protect the members
It was fun to make a landgrab and message the untagged country to join your alliance
It was fun to check the retal boards
It was fun to be a part of kill runs
It was fun to try different things while building your country, not quite knowing how it would turn out
It was fun to hunt multi's
It was fun to diplomatically interact
It was fun to build a better site than your competing alliances
It was fun to war for a cause, to die and restart as quickly as you could
It was probably fun to hit the top ten =)
Oh and it was fun to spam the AT boards

Fast forward to today and many of those things either don't apply or have been minimized. Time "in-game" has always been pretty minimal, especially after start up in peace-time. Maybe 20 mins a day if your researching bots to hit, likely no more than 10 min to run your turns. I'm sure we spend more time on our Discords, clan sites and the AT than we actually spend in-game.

I still enjoy the alliance server, mostly for the interaction with my alliance mates. I've found myself bored after using up my turns and played FFA server to fill in the gap. I use the express server to try out new builds and strats to use on alliance. 1A is a unique server, with aspects I don't think you can really get on the other servers. Some of the changes have been for neccessity due to the dwindling player base, some have been cultural made by the player base and some things haven't really changed for 25 years (for example, I use a strat from 2001 that works pretty well with just a few minor tweaks).

From the dev's point of view I'm sure the question is how do we drive more traffic to the site? If the "game" only takes 10 mins a day to play how much more traffic are you going to get even if you double or triple the current player base. Incorporating the tools, clan hosting and additional functions into the game will likely drive more traffic to the server AND as a result more players. If recruiting emails pointed them to join at clanx.earthempires.com vs , or checking stats at an earthempires link vs eestats.com, how much more traffic could be driven to the site.

I think you're on the right track, keep asking the questions. We are NOT ready to let this game die


The elephant in the room......
We have strayed from the original Earth 2025 and with each passing change (intended to increase player base), the player base has declined.
I am not into this whole community thing. I just come here to play a game. How are we supposed to recruit new players into a community that just wants to spend a few minutes/day hitting bots. I have recruited folks that won't stay for more than a day or two. They say it is too boring. Even online Chess matches require strategy. Chess requires offense and defense and sometimes you lose.....but like EE, you get to restart.
Make a server that leans on the original Earth 2025 and let's see what happens. Too many of you old folks no longer want to play that style of game. Real Life keeps you busy. Changes made to fit your current style of play will only result in the same old players from set to set.
Think aboout it.....old timers only return for war then leave when it goes back to just hitting bots.

P WeeZy should be along soon to confirm.

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Mar 29th 2024, 21:56:47

P WeeZy!! Wut up??

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Mar 29th 2024, 17:53:01

Originally posted by Requiem:
Originally posted by Suicidal:
Who cares?? FO :)


You care because you took time and energy to reply.

~LAR


FO

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Mar 29th 2024, 12:19:22

Who cares?? FO :)

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Mar 26th 2024, 3:40:39

WAR!!!

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Mar 24th 2024, 6:59:22

This has become a Sanctuary game.....you can admit to cheating and not get banned from the game and still allowed to spew your BS on AT forums......Thanks Biden

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Mar 23rd 2024, 23:33:03

who cares

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Mar 21st 2024, 21:28:46

-Go back to the original concept of Earth2025 ( the more changes that were made, the more folks left)
-No bots
-This is the Alliance Server and not a solo server
-Make a minimum player number to recognize a "Clan". First 5 days of set to achieve or leave
-Remove all outside tools
-Slow down Kill Runs
-Two options to consider....restart @ 50% of all losses OR restart at zero and let your alliance FA you back into the game as was done the original Earth 2025

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Mar 20th 2024, 16:57:13

[quote poster=galleri; 52506; 1030726]
Originally posted by Shweezy:
SoL pres is ABM
SoL HFA is Aphro
soL Head of war TTM

Im not up to another dumb set of behind the curtain drama.


WeeZy out

No.
You wanna talk sh#t? Call me
314.... well you know the number. [/quote

It's on te wall in every truck stop :P

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Mar 20th 2024, 10:40:08

See you back when you sober up :P

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Mar 19th 2024, 20:27:48

Originally posted by Coalie:
Originally posted by EmpyreanMKR:


Im am saying, STRAIGHT UP, PDM is not friends with SuperFly, BlackHole, or Suicidal as you claimed.



What has Superfly and Sui ever done to PDM?



Coalie, you need to go back on your meds. you might just be the only one who actually cares about what Empy says

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Mar 19th 2024, 13:27:05



Cath, when will you learn to stfu???? You soundin' like you are just seaking more and more attention sooo sad

Edited By: Primeval on Mar 19th 2024, 13:29:39

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Mar 19th 2024, 13:02:04

Originally posted by EmpyreanMKR:
Suicidal, way to come in an stain a heart felt message.
Thanks mods!
Earth 2025 and empires has been in my life since college, going on 24 or 25 years or some crazy number like that, and I left for a bit, and being back now feels like I never left!

Thanks for your hard work, even though you banned me for 24 hours for digging up an old post. :)

Well said m0b


Empy, u sooo woke

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Mar 19th 2024, 12:56:33

Now if they would ban multi-players from the game, or at least ban them from AT, that would be great

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Mar 19th 2024, 12:39:44

That was sooo sweet LOL

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Mar 19th 2024, 12:37:38

Simmer down now.....you fooled around and found out....just admit it and move on....would really hate to see it carry over to the next set.....not really, better than watching bot hits.

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Mar 19th 2024, 12:31:48

You fooled around and found out....Tag Kill, or as recent social media would call it,...."A Blood bath"

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Mar 19th 2024, 12:29:17

Originally posted by Coalie:
Looks like Prime deleted our convo


good Thank you Prime :)

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Mar 19th 2024, 12:17:32

Originally posted by Coalie:
Originally posted by Cathankins:
At this point I would say it’s safe to assume anything anyone says in this community is a lie and shouldn’t be trusted. Some of them appear to be legit sociopaths and just make up lies like that one kid everyone knew growing up. Their word is no good. Sad sight to see indeed.


Cath, you just think everyone is out to get you because of your personal beliefs bro.
You’re an awesome Jewish person is my opinion.


Coalie, let me remind you that this is a game. Empathy has no place in a war game.

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Mar 19th 2024, 10:33:10

Thank you Josey. Earth 2025 began mostly as a war game and all players knew it. There was a lot of trash talk back in the day. Mostly in fun.
Over the past 20+ years, many original players made "friends". I call them net friends.
As the game progressed, most net friends no longer wanted to war their other net friends and the game lost its intent.
Over time, more and more "friendly wars" were arranged which are sooo overrated.

I don't personally use a lot of social media.....I log into just to play the game. There are a lot of Alliances that communicate with their friends outside of the game through different social media and friends, across alliances, do the same.
Over the past 20+ years, although they won't admit it, many players have made this game their life.
They actually care what other players think about them. I don't.
My only alliance communications come the the game site inbox, in-game messages, and WC conversations.
There is always AT, which was originally used a lot for game smack. AT now has evolved to folks sharing their feelings through a LOT of "outside the game" conversations. Again, mostly by folks who have made it their real life vs. game life.

The player count has shrunk to a point where Multi-players no longer get banned. It has come to the point that outside social media comments can get you banned ingame.

Once again, I say thank you Josey. You folks have brought back the AT smack. My smack expert opinion would suggest that you folks make your point and move on. Repeating the same smack, over and over across multiple AT threads, tends to lose its effect. Your statement "None Of You Will Net In Peace Again" reminds me of how it was in the old days.
The game has evolved where only those expecting to "Net in peace" are bot hitting netters. How sad. Playing 1A, with a bunch of Bot hitters, is like watch paint dry.
Those netters that get hit by real players are crying because they were not war prepped.....how stupid! If folks want to play without defence, then they better be tough and stop whining. I don't consider it being war prepped when i build a country that makes the risk of hitting me not worth the overall gain. Worst case, my country gets killed. Restarting is also part of the game.
As the year 2025 approaches, it is good to see the AT smack and seeing bot hitters thinking about defence as some may call it being war prepped.
Thanks Josey.

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Mar 18th 2024, 15:29:20

Originally posted by Requiem:
But if you're still going to be a baby about taking a little banter back—as you give out a lot—then you're still a waste of my time.

LMK when you are tired of crying about it.


u needa stfu....go ride ur bike

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Mar 18th 2024, 15:13:01

Originally posted by Requiem:
Quit being Emo Sui.


From a netter that needs WC friends

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Mar 18th 2024, 14:50:35

Originally posted by Requiem:
Does anyone take the Team server seriously? It's always been a throwaway server, in my opinion.


Would be better if you just left

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Mar 17th 2024, 12:05:50

You know the game has gone to shiat when multi-runners, confessed or not, are not banned from playing AND even still allowed to post on game forums. Must really be hurting for players.

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Mar 16th 2024, 17:33:08

Originally posted by SuperFly:
Don’t forget to mention that their leader is also a convicted multi running cheater who needs to redeem himself and change his ways now.


You know the game has gone to shiat when multi-runners, confessed or not, are not banned from playing AND even still allowed to post on game forums. Must really be hurting for players.

As for celphi's post.....don't care what you think.

P.S. Requ FO

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Mar 12th 2024, 21:29:26

come on Mods...put an end to this shiat!

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Mar 11th 2024, 20:52:55

ttt

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Mar 5th 2024, 17:14:19

Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
If you wish to figure out how to get banned then consider what it would take to create a legal liability for the game. For example if a person is threatened, and the threat is such that if it's carried out and the game admins would bear some liability for not banning the person to the the conflict - then a permanent ban is required.

Now I have no knowledge at all if this is the case, I'm just devising a scenario where there isn't any real option.

If by coming back Chevs ended up doing something illegal to damage a player or admin then that player or admin would have legal recourse against the game itself, because they knew that he has threatened to do such things in the past yet allowed him back.

So in reality there may simply not be another side, or any response at all that matters.

Now I've never played with Chevs but those who have indicate that he is unstable and they ban him, so none of this is surprising. I have no doubt that he made the threat being referenced.


TC. I feel that you are an idiot. You seek attention way tooo much. Your whole post was pure speculation. I hear Biden is hiring for folks like you to go on as influencers.

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Mar 5th 2024, 16:44:11

The Supreme Court has voted 9-0 to have Chevs conditionally reinstated.
In their opinion, the Supreme Court ruled that no unelected Administrator can ban a player based on a one-sided presentation to the game boss.

In this particular case, the offended (Chevs) should be able to present his side of the story to the game boss (QZ).
Should the game boss decide the ban was in error, then the Administrator, who fraudulantly presented a one-sided story, should be removed from his/her duties and banned for life.

A game Moderator should be appointed to represent the offended, AND the game boss, to gain a final determination. Should the offended decide not to appeal then, the issue is over.

The ban shall be lifted until such time that the Moderator has the opportunity to moderate the issue(s). There shall be no individual player, looking to stir up shiat in a silly game outside of the game leadership structure.
I would suggest that Demon moderate this particular issue as he has shown an even keel.
Let the Moderator(s) moderate.

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Mar 5th 2024, 4:22:07

Move this to GT.....you are ruining my game experience

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Mar 2nd 2024, 16:15:00

move this to GT

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Mar 1st 2024, 17:12:41

Originally posted by MILORD:
If so.... Just say it. I'll quit this game myself!


You can quit but save me you wife. Sooo many women, sooo little time.

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Mar 1st 2024, 13:26:12

Originally posted by Doug:
Suicidal almost single handedly had the USA tossed out of the United Nations. Be warned lol


*waves the US Flag* Get us out of the UN.

Had we finished the wall, and vetted all these A-Holes, we wouldn't have all the Russians here.

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Mar 1st 2024, 12:46:49

Originally posted by MILORD:
Originally posted by Murf:
I don't play team and you hit my country here.

Doh


I attacked those clans that killed my country in the last recruitment on the Alliance server. Why did you attack the country of Astral, ask Superfly and Suicidal.
ps
I didn’t complain when your clans killed my country and killed the countries of my friends. And don’t you complain! I don't ask you for peace! I will not fight with you. I will show interest in countries that intend to go to the top 10. Your kiltima does not interest me. If someone from the top countries does not share the point of view of their comrades, you can join other clans. In general, this is your business.


Keep my name outta ur mouf!! I wasn't tagged SOF last set ya A-Hole.
P.S. Fuk off

Edited By: Suicidal on Mar 1st 2024, 12:49:43

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Feb 25th 2024, 18:27:47

Originally posted by Cathankins:
It means obviously you are out to stab us in the back repeatedly and I see no point in continuing these silly antics. Do what you obviously are out to do superfly. I am not surprised. You literally suicide new players on express every single set to make sure no new players can come learn to play and join the game.


Honestly if there was one single player I would actually ban from
The game it would be you. I think you are a liar and a bully and you seek out weak new players to do that.

I have zero respect for people like you. No point in playing your silly games any longer.


If you wish to speak to me we can speak here in public because I do not trust you to lie and do some wierd two faced stuff at this point.


^^ You sound like a crybaby ^^ Does your Mother know that you stress over silly games???

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Feb 23rd 2024, 0:14:37

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
I managed a Papa John’s in 2010. It’s the only restaurant I ever worked in that didn’t have Mexican employees.


I, I, I, I,

No one cares

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Feb 20th 2024, 13:31:00

Originally posted by Doug:
Originally posted by AbRaMcHiK:
Originally posted by Doug:
Now I see the fuss. Suoerfky and suicidal should burn this bitxh to the ground. To the young players, I would like to add that for decades very few leaders of any major plans would allow the cross server BS that we have witnessed over the last two months..

Saves up my suicidal and superfly money. 💰


what "bitxh" are we talking about?


The server.

It’s a metaphor as in “burn this bitxh to the ground” meaning burn it all, claim the insurance money.

/me buys more suicidal and superfly coins 💰


/me walks up to Doug's soap box and slaps him in the face.

Keep my name out ur mouf!

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Feb 20th 2024, 13:27:33

Originally posted by santti:
Tits are birds!


From one of the "Community" that gets off in tissues and has no idea what real life is like.
Sooo many women, sooo little time.

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Feb 19th 2024, 1:11:49

Tits are good.....weezer just wants to see the guys in their Fishnets

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Feb 17th 2024, 4:50:13

I am just here to pick up women

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Feb 16th 2024, 19:41:09

Originally posted by MILORD:
In this game, as in the Olympics, all possible records have been broken. But not for the Light clan and the Martians. Together we set new records for the number of murders and attacks.And we are going to increase the result by the end of the set. Having overtaken even the former champion super fly and suicidal, May Svarog help us.


"former champion super fly and suicidal" you made me blush

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Feb 15th 2024, 0:58:03

Originally posted by AbRaMcHiK:
Originally posted by Suicidal:
Originally posted by AbRaMcHiK:
they were so upset that they decided to transfer all the revenge to the Alliance server.


Stop crying. There is no crying in EE.


Is anyone crying besides you? Sorry, didn't notice.


I no cry, I no die, I multiply....restarting is all part of the game....u gise should know

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Feb 13th 2024, 19:11:40

Me, you, and weezy

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Feb 13th 2024, 18:04:35

Originally posted by AbRaMcHiK:
they were so upset that they decided to transfer all the revenge to the Alliance server.


Stop crying. There is no crying in EE.

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Feb 12th 2024, 16:49:49

Seriously? Do you really think you "won" a war with a bunch of Disney characters?
You folks must be Fukking Goofy.