A single spy op is able to kill over half your population just with bioterrorism? Really?? Why have spy operations become so gamebreaking? If it did 1% per successful mission, even 2%, sure, but to have just one last 15 turns and kill 50% of the population? There really needs to be some kind of balance. It is not fair to legitimate, hard-working players who build an army and build up their country to withstand attacks and suddenly, someone just throws in a spy operation and almost kills you outright without sending a single jet. You don't see this IRL when a group enters a country and suddenly 50% of that country is dead in one swoop. Spy attack operations really need to be nerfed.

Thoughts?

A. Yes spy ops are very strong and bioterror is one of the stronger.

B. Stacking bioterrors in high enough numbers on a target becomes ineffective, which is why 1 or 2 ops can be really strong without breaking the game.

C. Bioterror has many counters, more than other spy ops:
1. Spies, if they cant get the op through... same for other ops
2. Spy DR, if you have been hit with a lot of harmful spy ops in the last 24 hours you get harder to op.. same for other ops.
3. Medical tech cures bioterror faster.
4. Bioterrors has a chance to bounce to the sender if theres already at least one on the target.

If you used to play the old e2025 then yes spies have much higher influence now and I am not sure I like this change all too much either. One of the changes they seem to have done is reduce the penalty you get for being a smaller weaker country. This I believe to be just about the dumbest change I can see they have made.

I am not in Game A. I am in B. And if it only kills 25%... My population was at 100,000. After the bioterrorism attacks, it was at 49,000. So that's a little more than 25%.

11 hours ago
A cruise missile from ********* (#**) was launched at your lands, destroying:
You destroyed:
505 Military Units

11 hours ago
A chemical missile from ********* (#**) was launched at your lands, destroying:
You destroyed:
8752 Civilians
170 Buildings

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 14 buildings!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 14 buildings!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 14 buildings!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 14 buildings!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives poisoned our water supplies! Only our scientists can save us now!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives poisoned our water supplies! Only our scientists can save us now!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives poisoned our water supplies! Only our scientists can save us now!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives poisoned our water supplies! Only our scientists can save us now!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives poisoned our water supplies! Only our scientists can save us now!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 14 buildings!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 14 buildings!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 14 buildings!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 14 buildings!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 15 buildings!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 15 buildings!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 15 buildings!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 15 buildings!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 15 buildings!

11 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 16 buildings!

POPULATION LOSS: 51,832 of 100,645
All that just because of 1 Standard Strike

Bio only kills your population as you use turns while your population is poisoned.

All the Chemical Missiles killed your population, not the Bio Terrorism.

In complete honesty who ever is assaulting you with spies, they are doing a horrible job.

Those are weak bomb structure returns.... They could have been extremely more menacing.

Also I wouldn't call this over powered. Build more spies, get some spy tech or drop some land and see your enemies success rate plummet!

Also pop was clearly about 67-68k at the time of that chemical strike. not 100k

also not to mention you only get 25 ops on this server.

Why didn't you invest in more spies then? Or also, get or have medical tech, it shortens the time the plague rampages through your nation.

Get spies!

blah blah blah blah blah blah

RAWR!

Well sometimes a guy ends up being a feeder as i have this round in Primary. It sucks as I got caught with my pants down as to much land and not enough to stop standards. So you just keep trying to rebuild every day then one day you open it and you snap. hahaha and does not matter who it is or the fact they only did the one strike they are the one who takes the retal for all the others.

It happens and it is just a game there will always be another reset.

Agreed with Gerdler

Get spies then

i think spies are an often neglected facet of the game. properly employed, they can be devastating and the only defense is to have a good spal yourself. xinja is correct, as your spal approaches that of your opponent who is throwing destructive spy ops, their chance of failure increases, and failure implies loss of spies. also, their is a diminishing returns aspect to throwing spy ops ... failures naturally increase with use. replinishng spy losses takes indies and turns. i've been in spy wars where the original aggressor lost the upperhand by over using their spies.

so yeah, get some spies, and you too can be insanely overpowered to the next spy noob

:)

That's crazy that it can be used that much!

spies eat alot

Well i don't know if this was mentioned , but spies, protect your country's missiles from sabotage. When you have 80 missiles in your alliances country. Your missiles are easy kills if you don't have enough spies to protect them. Or enough spies tech, to strengthening your spies., and yes spies are expensive, when you have 2.676.080 spies, Note the spy costs are highest of the military expenses.
$3,666,018.
Spies $2,278,005
Troops $230,227
Jets $238,259
Turrets $765,317
Tanks $154,210.]

^shouldn't post that info.

Just and old FFA expense report,for a prime example of the spy expenses.

Spy attacks work wonders in a lot of cases, however, the most profitable attacks steal tech from your enemies, or maybe just somebody in your scores list that has lots of tech and not enough spies to protect it.

I went a whole reset one time in the Alliance game where I stole two turns of tech from a guy every day for almost a month and a half and never got caught. LOL I'm sure it was making that guys ass draw up a point in his chair cushion. hahahaha