There should be a zero tolerance policy for that, period. Playing this game 15+ years it was never really kosher to do it and always bad form.

I think they should announce mdecols country on AT or make it purple.

[quote poster=MauricXe; 28624; 523775]

also apparently banned by the mods [/quote]
They delete his post?

Yea. looks like the offending posts were deleted.

to clarify because it seems my post was ambiguous: his actions are banned not him.

yes, it was banned by the mods. I understand the rule now. I was under the impression that I was just not allowed to post anything that required a turn to gather, I stand corrected.

The post was deleted and I am going to edit out every post containing reference to it. A mistake was made, and I am fixing it. as should have scodes post about the team server country to hit. (which also violates forum rule)

Sov whether your pact signed date is true or not. Just trying to clear things up then as someone is lying here it's you or aponic.

[23:24:53] (aponic) if none of you want to fight
[23:24:56] (aponic) ill bully you
[23:25:00] (aponic) with land grabs
[23:25:02] (aponic) or something
[23:25:12] (aponic) because im going to do what i think is best for my alliance
[23:25:23] (aponic) anyway
[23:25:28] (aponic) when you wouldnt sign the unap
[23:25:33] (aponic) i had to sign a pact with laf
[23:25:46] (aponic so now my nest is made

and boom goes the dynamite....

Thanks, you are okay in my book! Handled it well.

what do you expect from someone who breaks uNaps? How low will mdevol and sol sink???


makinso, you still refuse to answer my questions publically but demand that sov answer yours and your little hand puppets??

Way to post logs which have no context or date, what you scared to post the full information cause it ruins your so called story???

Who can trust a word you say when you openly break unbreakable pacts with alliances, no one can trust you or your little hand puppet.

Scode, did you expect more from those two pieces of human garbage? I set the bar low for those special people...

Not at all, they have done it numerous times in the past.

Alliance sucks!

i only read the first page of this post because im positive the rest turned to garbage quick but apo stepping into leadership roll is a step in the right direction for SoF

tissues anyone ? all those tears ...

Ok i googled again and found this logs :


<Makinso> mdevol i fell like we didn`t pwned Sof enough in alliance. must be those god damn hollidays.
<mdevol> hmm, and what do you suggest ?
<Makinso> cross-server war:war retal baby. Can you do anything somewhere ?
<Tavern> pfft, that`s not nice.
<mdevol> well i have these FFA countries, and i know some people. I can FS iScode. I can also suicide in primary on < insert random Sof leader >.
<Tavern> com on guys, let the old grudges go
<Makinso> Oh well Tav, vikings can`t forget or forgive
<mdevol> ok, i declared on iScode in FFA. And i am saving turns in primary to ...
<Eugene> Suuuuuup!!!!
<Songoku> Happy New Year Everyone !!!!
<Makinso> WTF!!! Who the fluff invited the asians to this party ?
<Tavern> Erhm ....
Makinso part #fluffSof
<mdevol> ... to parklot < insert random Sof leader > ...
<mdevol> hey boss ? where did you go ?
<Tavern> :(

Somewhere in another universe :

<Sov> ... and if we FDP you and you will FA us straight after we FS, with this game changes and all, we can kill both MD and SOL.
<Eugene> NO!
<Sov> WTF? I just checked you. Wtf is with those ircChannels ?
Eugene now speaking in #treehugers #fluffSof #ChineseDragonYear

pffft those logs are obviously fake, i dont play in FFA...

Failed troll Alin...

and makinso doesnt swear!!!

Well i assume he doesnt since he doesnt allow his members too.

MAKINSO won't let his member view the forums so he can spin his fluff on them.

True

Whomever posts the logs are fake should not be allowed to use internet. Is to much for you.

And Sol isn`t PG rated anymore, for a while now, iScode.

Another failed troll

i get censored when i swear on there irc channel, so you are lying.

I've already seen these. what else you got?

Way to try and hijack a truthful log.

I'm not demanding answers iscode just asking questions a question towards someone who claims to be far more transparent then me.

you have no right to ask questions until you are prepared to answer questions put to you yourself...

Who is earth empires jesus christ? Who will be our saviour?

LoL Iscode the RIGHT? to ask questions? In what country were you born lol.

Questions are free I can ask anything I want. Demanding answers is something that I can't do I can ask for them though. And who are you to determine which right a person has or doesn't have. Are you a judge?

I never claimed to be one of the most transparent leaders in public. SoV did, I am making a call on that statement to have my question answered. I am not demanding because that's not how the world generally works but that seems to go beyond you.


So back to my question without having it hijacked.

[23:24:53] (aponic) if none of you want to fight
[23:24:56] (aponic) ill bully you
[23:25:00] (aponic) with land grabs
[23:25:02] (aponic) or something
[23:25:12] (aponic) because im going to do what i think is best for my alliance
[23:25:23] (aponic) anyway
[23:25:28] (aponic) when you wouldnt sign the unap
[23:25:33] (aponic) i had to sign a pact with laf
[23:25:46] (aponic) so now my nest is made

So let me make my question more generic, SoF leaders:
Who has been lying:

Is Aponic lying? Is Sov Lying? Or is Flamey lying? (who claimed civil war if they pacted LCN, SOL and MD).

How about, you answer my question?


And who am i to judge? Only about the most honest player in this game, one who has never lied or broken there word or cheated when leading an alliance. And before you laugh and say thats untrue, post proof of my ever braking my word in this game...

Oh also your question is very vague? Lying about what?

Are you asking if sof leadership had plans to hit sof? Then the answer is no one is lieing, lets narrow down the log, since you want to take a snippet of it and twist it in true dagga fashion to your advantage.

'[23:25:33] (aponic) i had to sign a pact with laf'

this what you are asking about right, this one line. Well actually how do you know that aponic was forced to pact laf by other leaders and it was only his agenda to not want to pact laf?

So the answer to your question makinso, is no one is lieing. Aponic has not stated that sof was going to fs laf, this is not a lie. Sov has stated we were pacted to laf 2 weeks before the start of a new set, this is not a lie. Flamey said we could POSSIBLY have a civil war, this is not a lie.

DO you know what else is not a lie, mdevol, your little puppet fluff breaks unbreakable pacts, therefor sol leadership endorses breaking unbreakable pacts, if you didnt you would remove that scum from leadership.

Are you going to remove mdevol from leadership? Are you going to admit you were never netting? of course not, cause you are scum, you are worse than a lying manipulative female. You are the dog fluff stuck to the bottom of peoples shoes.

I bet you even cheated in E2025...

Yea remove mdevol. Also boot 50% of Sol members with the message " i am a lie scum, please join Sof"

After that FS Laf oop so Sof can remake their block and gangbang everyone for the next 10 resets.

I stand by the comment that it would be suicide to attack Laf so unless they have given up I dont think your rants make much sense Sol. Sof is slow to reply though so meh.

I was waiting for aponic to respond here but he doesn't check AT often. In fact, he's a very busy man as of late. He already explained to us what went down during his talks well before this post showed up on AT.

iiScode took the time to connect the dots wrt the civil war and the pactings despite it being completely obvious. He also has already hinted at aponic's intentions; aponic had mused an idea to not pact LaF...those intentions were his own. That wasn't approved by the other heads nor discussed with them. I think he got to comfy with you guys and exposed one of his musings. He has 'matured' a bit in that regard and sees you for what you are...untrustworthy.

One of you pointed out that a country in SoF supports the idea that SoF was going to hit LaF. The country was created well after the FDP was signed with LaF.

There is no secret plot to hit LaF and despite your attempts here and elsewhere, LaF knows that.

Who would trust mdevol? Can anyone think of why they couldn't trust him? Its not like signing pacts and breaking them shows you take the moral highground hahahahahs

iscode has gone full retard.


never go full retard,

bloop

Bad_troll

Reading comprehension seems to be somewhat a weakness for all of you leaders on the other side isn't it.



You are neither a member of SoF nor are you someone whom I hold in high esteem.

Regarding SoF's pact with LAF... I signed that pact on the 19th of November with Candy_Man. You are more then welcome to seek his confirmation and it was indeed before SoF requested a pact from SOL.

But Makinso calls into question my credibility it seems, so let's look at a few things regarding SoF and LAF.

1) In all my years of leadership in Earth I have never dropped a FDP and FSed them. How many times has Makinso done this I wonder? I know of a few times specifically. I do not give out FDPs lightly nor do I drop them lightly.

2) SoF and LAF have been pacted since long before I joined SoF. It is an enduring relationship which transcends myself as leader of SoF and Eugene and h347 as leaders of LAF.

3) Even in my previous Alliance I had always been close to LAF and have always been FDPed to them. When I first became a leader LAF was my first ever FDP and many of the leaders in LAF now were in LAF back then.

4) Individual leaders in LAF such as h347, Don TOB, Hanlong and Son Goku I consider close friends of mine and these friendships have endured for over a decade.

SoF and LAF will not always agree on things and the relationship may become strained now and then, but overall the relationship would never be thrown aside so lightly by myself.

Now let's see if Makinso has it in him to answer these questions which I had posed to SOL leaders over the previous 2 sets.

- Makinso why did you feel the need to lie to RD and tell them that I was behind SOL in pursuing RD? Is this how you operate politically by blatantly lying to Alliance leaders to achieve your objectives?

- Why did SOL leadership tell their members that I was plotting and scheming with SOL's allies trying to isolate SOL which is also a blatant lie? During the time in question I had not even been active for 2 weeks and certainly had not attempted to rally my own allies let alone SOL's allies.


Now let's fast forward to this set shall we. You openly say to Aponic that SoF only pacted SOL to get at MD, LCN and DKnights. For example:-

[14:27:45] '[SOL]Makinso' that pact was used
[14:27:49] '[SOL]Makinso' to stomp LCN DK into the ground
[14:27:56] '[SOL]Makinso' to get clean shots on MD

SoF and SOL were FDPed before issues between SoF and MD unfolded. In fact it was SOL who was one of MD's allies informing us of what MD was doing behind the scenes thus leading SoF to take the path that it did. So if SOL played a huge part in the start of the MD/SoF wars, how is it that SoF was just using SOL to get at MD? In fact for the first 2 MD/SoF wars SOL was invited to joint allies meetings and was consulted for advice on how SoF should proceed.

As previously mentioned on this thread LCN FSed SoF, did not pact us the following set and then mass FA'd MD. As a result we FSed them back. SOL FSed our FDPs for less. LCN was also not a FDP of SOL at this time. So how was SoF using SOL's pact to tear LCN down?

Let it be known I was open and honest in my dealings for the most part with SOL leadership. Except for the one time I was trying to bluff Prankster which actually lead to the fallout in SOL/SoF relations and I have accepted responsibility for.


Character assassination seems to be the biggest political tool in the current SOL leadership's arsenal. It can be a very strong tool especially when trying to rally one's own members, but be careful because it can explode in your face when exposed as being based on deception.

I hate it when people drop logs on AT. It's lame and a fluffty way to operate between alliances. But I'd like to point out that those Aponic logs are just the beginning and pretty tame. I've seen others (by SoF leaders other then Aponic as well) giving a much clearer indication of SoFs feelings towards LaF. Some mentioning/hinting at open war.

you are all like a bunch of highschool girls fighting over an outfit.

++martian
equal opportunity troll.
:P

+1

martian wears dresses!!!

so does galleri!!!

Care to share yours with us?

this is still just a game, right? you people take this fluff way too serious

It isnt just a game. You dont take it seriously enough.