There's clearly team work, or market manipulation going on. I get tech sent back that's way under average only to view history to see its sold for 7k, lol. That explains the NW separation gaps. Numbers don't lie.

Could just be bad luck. Use IRC nw news to find out who's buying tech at those prices next time and post results. If it's a player, you may be right, but it's a pretty big accusation to make without names or proof.

^There's your name & proof.

I guess I'm not cool then. 😔

Plus- I'm sure some players have the bots logging in down to the minute. So having tech hit market before they buy up probably would help your chances.

That's what I meant by manipulation or exploitation. I tried to figure that out myself but failed. Butt hurt I guess,lol.

I can assure you of several things about me.
1) I don't ask my friends to buy my tech.
2) I try and beat my friends if I am netting
3) I do not know when the bots login...but that is a good idea. thanks Celphi.
4) my guess is there is significantly less collusion that the normal non top 10ers think. this game is pretty simple if you follow the same strat and make tweaks for what works bwtter.
5) if anyone ever needs netting advice feel free to ask. I will always help those who are nice and ask for help.

I run 20 countries on this server and buy anything and everything for anyone that plays in LaF or ZZ or IMP

Drkprinc Buy my jets please!

Ha!, Jayr is a cheater!!!

I can confirm that anyone who finishes ahead of me regularly is a cheat.

With that being said, ebert00 is definitely the biggest cheat the express game has ever seen!

lol kingme. the sad thing is that some people around here actually believe that statement. I know I said it last round. but welcome back. glad u are playing again.

One of these days you're going to have to teach me how to play Commie ebert00.

It's the only govt i have never played.

That was actually this round ;)
I said I would quit, but I stuck it through. Even after a terrible start I've got a top 10 coming. I wouldn't say that I'm back... but we shall see.

Take that beerdrinker!

lol...looks like you are gonna gain one on me :)

I woke up with 360 (360) and haven't played much today. Now i feel bad about borrowing someone else's name this set.

A little secret Maj1 loves to undercut Tech sales, He "Say's it piss's off a lot of guy's in the set." So don't put all your eggs in one basket, for cash flow.

If someone is caught doing this on Express, Primary, or Tournament, you'll be deleted. Just FYI.

/me points in the general direction of Jayr.

Can't, it's random.

Now you tell me ! 😣

J/K Q ...but seriously thanks for letting us know that and it makes sense.

I think that he is doing the right thing for strange reasons. The market works in the way it does and it's up to us players to use it to our advantage.

I also undercut a lot. Sometimes I watch the market and see it's going up, at those times I might not undercut.

This brings up a question, dose lower priced tech/bushels/oil sell before the higher priced, tech/bushels/oil on the markets?

yeah 😕

why wouldn't those?

my brain hurts.

take some aspirin.

I was under the impression that most bots have their turns used up (almost at all times), so there aren’t “specific times that a bot would log in.” I would imagine that tech purchases or defense purchases are at times where they have cash, which is very random-- it can be after using a turn, or after they sell their own product on the markets, which is variable based on when that happens.

Like many have said, this game isn’t that hard—I started 2 months ago, and with some well-placed advice from the nice guys in the community, have been able to do reasonably well, although I still find myself looking up at the end of a set, haha.

The market doesn’t react all that different than real markets, and sometimes is a microcosm of a real market. For example, the price of any asset (you can view this as price of a stock, or price of a commodity, etc.) isn’t the only component to look at when you are evaluating an investment decision. You also have to look at the depth on both sides—of both demand and supply. On EE, I’m sure a number of players (myself included) may decide to cause short term price disruptions on both sides. If there’s a lot of tech offered low, and you have a lot of stock to offload, you would prefer a higher last/current price to encourage tech not being progressively sold lower, by both bots and humans. Yes, sometimes that results in tech being squeezed higher, only to have a massive price drop minutes later when more tech eventually hits the market. Similarly, you may have standing orders to “protect” your own offered price.

In the end, I’m virtually certain that there is close to 0 collusion/teamwork (other than maybe Ratski and his Ponytail, who the mods have been consistent in chopping off). It’s more likely that those who struggle to understand correct strategy (and thus, are not consistent T20 players) are the ones who are encouraged to try to cheat/collude to end up higher (the whole clintonista thread with screenshots is an obvious example). This is a game—a fun game—and a nice community (for the most part). Instead of decrying players that finish well, it would seemingly behoove players to work through how to finish better. Speaking from experience, almost all of the top players are more than willing to help. I’m not a top player, but I am always willing to as well.

1. I think you might be confused by what you see when you spy. You'll see 0 turns on hand, when in reality that number doesn't budge until the bot logs in. So a bot logs in and plays and doesn't return for say... 4 hours. 3 hours and 59 minutes later you could spy and still see 0 turns on hand. You could look at turns played and it should be 4 hours behind, and that should back-up what I'm saying. Unless things have changed?

2. You just finished in the top 10, that's a "top" player!

Catbus you are awesome! I have seen you play and you have more ingenuity than most. Keep learning but you are doing awesome!

Kingme-- Interesting-- (1)- I actually didn't know that. (2) Top 10 isn't enough :)

Gerdler-- Thanks for the kind words. It's not so much about beating anyone--- it's about being competitive!! (although it felt good when ebert PMed me and asked if I was you when I was temporarily ahead, haha).

And (3) there are super nice and helpful people on the server. VicVixVi and beerdrinker75/Ashe encouraged me to stay and gave me valuable pointers

It’s cool to see them win. Or ebert. Or gerdler. Bc you keep trying, Clint! You don’t complain.

Nope, he whines!

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A few things about me.
1. I don't have friends
2. If I did they wouldn't play express
3. I'm not smart enough to run bots

4. Meg Myers is HOT in panties

^^Great I learned something today. I didn't know who Meg Myers is, still don't, but that seems unimportant in this circumstance.

Here...

https://youtu.be/bR5u9jb0PJE

she's a songtress who riddler et co "admire" (pg13 version)

Meg Myers is my wife lol, KoH can send you the link to the video


And Meg Myers mention is always relevant!

Link is posted, yummy

True story I was even there at the wedding to protest it but they still went through with it :(

I know I don't have to play but come on ,can't the market be moderated some how. It's amazing how these magical high priced techs sell for just out of the blue. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the pattern.

You think weird stuff is happening this set?

Don't blame me. I tried to kill him off his second game but he kept coming back :P -v

Every set if you watch market news. There's team work , a bug being exploited, or nobody else has figured out the bots buying patterns except a select few.

Honestly... If that's the worst of it... 100x better than my era