In case you didn't know, CC is an FDP of ours.


With that said...


PoD Officially Declares War on Mercs.

Normally people post their war declaration AFTER they get their first kill ....

CC might not be happy that you are implying that they called you in. If they didn't call you in, calling them your FDP in the war declaration isn't wise. If they did call you in, then they're pretty pathetic.

Normally people dont do an AB FS either...

Normally people aren't complete n00bs either...

Normally breakers don't leave themselves with only 0-10k tanks...

The bottom half of the tag in networth aren't normally the breakers...

Normally, an FSing tag w/ a cash stockpile tries to kill said breakers...

Normally the rest of the server gives 2 fluffs.... but guess what?

1 fluff

can i get another?

/me steals one fluff from Chaos, runs off with it cackling loudly ;)

<3 PoD :)

interesting touch ;)

Very interesting developments

Actually, PoD's countries are so crappy, even our restarts can be breakers ... if we're killing PoD.

Thats pretty pathetic, PoD. Normally restarts with 50k jets aren't breakers on original countries.

After our AB FS, the countries we hit were ranked: 2nd, 8th, 16th, 17th, 19th, 24th, 29th, 35th, 40th, 55th and 72nd in Mercs.

With 80 countries in Mercs, it appears to me that 9 of our 11 targets were in your TOP half and only 2 were in your BOTTOM half.

Since you obviously have no clue what the fluff your talking about, keep your mouth shut Rockman.

Dedlysmurf - you bounced 5 ABs on the #2 ranked country in Mercs, and didn't break with any at all. Kinda funny to include that country as one that you ABd. At least a few of the countries that you did break with ABs had way more than 10k tanks before you started ABing.

didn't know that just being in the "top half" was enough to be considered a good target..

meh

8/15/2011 15:21:46 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB Attack Failed
8/15/2011 15:21:41 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB Attack Failed
8/15/2011 15:21:37 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB Attack Failed
8/15/2011 15:21:34 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB Attack Failed
8/15/2011 15:21:17 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB Attack Failed
8/15/2011 15:21:13 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 75 Blds

8/15/2011 15:21:12 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 77 Blds
8/15/2011 15:21:12 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 78 Blds
8/15/2011 15:21:12 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 79 Blds
8/15/2011 15:21:11 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 80 Blds
8/15/2011 15:21:07 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 81 Blds
8/15/2011 15:21:06 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 82 Blds
8/15/2011 15:21:05 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 83 Blds
8/15/2011 15:21:00 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 84 Blds
8/15/2011 15:21:00 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 86 Blds
8/15/2011 15:21:00 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 89 Blds

8/15/2011 15:20:59 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 90 Blds
8/15/2011 15:20:58 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 91 Blds
8/15/2011 15:20:54 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 92 Blds
8/15/2011 15:20:54 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 93 Blds
8/15/2011 15:20:54 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 95 Blds
8/15/2011 15:20:53 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 96 Blds
8/15/2011 15:20:48 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 97 Blds
8/15/2011 15:20:48 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 98 Blds
8/15/2011 15:20:47 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 101 Blds
8/15/2011 15:20:47 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 102 Blds

8/15/2011 15:20:46 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 103 Blds
8/15/2011 15:20:45 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 105 Blds
8/15/2011 15:20:40 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 106 Blds
8/15/2011 15:20:39 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB 107 Blds
8/15/2011 15:20:31 PoD Harkonnen (#85) PoD nof (#1254) Mercs AB Attack Failed



nof (#1254) was your #1 country correct? After we ABed him, he was your #2 country correct?


Once again, Shut the fluff up rockman, you have no idea what you are even saying.

You successfully ABd two techers, one of which is just 4500 acres 1.56m networth. The rest that you ABd were all cashers, and were not our breakers.

3 of the cashers were about 2.2m networth, 3 were about 1.8m networth, and 1 was about 1.2m networth. Thats 9 countries that you ABd, I guess the other two you were talking about were ones that you thought about ABing, but didn't actually do any successful ABs on.

You ABd one of our breakers, that's it. Pretty pathetic target selection.

I was talking about The Hague (#1054) as the one who you bounced 5 ABs on, and counted him as someone that you ABd. Nof (#1254) was the ONLY breaker that you successfully ABd in your entire AB FS.

I count 9 countries that you ABd, 7 of them cashers, 2 of them techers, and only 1 of the 9 over 2.5m networth.


I guess a successful AB FS is one where you manage to AB 1 breaker. Thats a pretty high bar to set for future AB FSs.

#1217 = Techer that started at 3.1m NW
#1254 = Techer that started at 4.3m NW

I don't need to look any further to prove you wrong yet again...


Shut up, your making yourself look dumb.

You got 5 BRs on on #1217, and no ABs, and you destroyed under 1000 buildings. That's not what other people call successfully ABing a country.

You ABd one breaker. That's it.

only 1000 buildings?

you need to AB at least 3/5 of a country to actually damage it, if it can be build again in 40 turns or less then the AB was a complete and utter failure

*you're. Irony!!

this is the second funniest war dec i've ever read.

Second to clan Saget's war dec on AoDT?

of course

PDM FS FTW!

Mercs PoD 1308 5
PoD Mercs 1074 0

Who's winning? ;D

tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
Mercs 12665 53 239 5641 19 297
SALT 11231 57 197 5864 34 172
Total 23896 110 217 11505 53 217


tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
CC 10431 53 197 22045 102 216
PoD 1074 0 1851 8 231
Total 11505 53 217 23896 110 217


Great FS PoD.

Thanks ZDH ;)

hey dedly

incase you didnt know, Mercs is an FDP of focus.....

i hope focus doesnt feel the need to join this war without being called in. PoD was legit called in and if 25 countries are enough to have rockman call a 207 country clan in, fluff on him, leaves the door wide open for PoD to claim moral victory and makes rock look foolish. why doesnt mercs or salt kill them, they are allies no? and not struggling with us...


the best part of this is that the same people asking focus when they are gonna wipe pod off the map are the people that told me to call in allies. i hardly did that at a mere 32 countries.

i got tired of ABing... so i killed one. now can we "officially" declare?

it seems to be 14 vs 12 by my count, it was pretty even to start, and its still pretty even now

12 cc
1 left
1 joined

2 pod

6 mercs
6 salt

who's asking us to kill pod, i think pain's just a little trigger happy :-p

mdevol - PoD has 32 countries, I don't know where you got the 25 number from.

CC had 195 countries at the start of the war (179 tagged), and needed to call in another 32 a couple of days in. We made no indication of asking for any help, you're the ones who are looking foolish as always. I also was not aware of anyone asking Focus to kill PoD.

You also asked why we don't kill them, when we'd already killed 5 of them. You need to pay better attention. We had already killed over 15% of their tag within 7 hours of their FS, even though we werent turn saving at all, and they came in with pretty decent sized cash stockpiles.

CC having to call for help when the numbers are even (CC in fact had a 3 country advantage at the start of the war) makes CC look pretty pathetic. But that's nothing new for you, is it?

I got 25 from the EE clan page that shows 25 countries in the tag PoD, 1 being in protection. looks like you have killed 8 of them, that being 25%. i ask why you dont just kill them because its only 2 strings and by the posts on this forum you guys clearly are confident in your advantage. we fell victim to a poor showing on regular members this set and had to scramble to find new ones to fill the void, and 2 have dropped playing as well as one of our leaders, we felt that was enough of a tilt of the scales to justify calling in a 2 member tag to even out the numbers rather than calling in a much larger ally and smashing you guys.

as for who is asking...pain knows, he and i both have the logs. no need to throw dirt on that one in ffat.

but im done posting on ffat about this for the remainder of the war

POD chose to suicide. End of story.

You didn't seem to care about even numbers last set, mdevol.

Ok in defense of CC

Last set when they FSed SALT, SALT had a networth advantage, If SALT had been more active the war would have been more interesting, but I would say CC had a clear advantage after the FS even with the miss matched networth, if SALT had walled a little bit more then they could have had a chance of victory.

Also when CC attempted to kill you Rockman, we could say the Networth once again should be taken into account, to the point it was impossible for CC to stay in range.

CC was too nice, they let both Mercs and SALT get prepped and build great countries, they should Had FSed both of you when Mercs began their Tech phase, and add someone like TPV or SOTA to make it kind of even.

In the end, Starting numbers are somewhat equal, but FSes tend to blow that fairness away, if you want a fair war, the ones doing the FS should have a 15% country disadvantage as a minimum, unless the FS sucks or both have max turns on hand.

Networth should be taken into account: When you're 200 million networth, you can't afford to use turns and attack back. And with 72 hours left, whats the point? FSing in the last 72 hours is extremely lame, as is hitting a tag 1/2 your size.

Mercs and Salt were not prepped for war. Its why our FS caught CC by surprise.

Then why even bring it up :P

the main problem is FS's are overpowered, id rather see game changes to make it easier for a good or bad performance to matter

a few days to recover

rather than being able to kill an insane % of the number of countries you attack with in the FS day 1 and day 2

the problem is assuming = numbers means FSer wins

then how much smaller should the FSer be? 10%? 20%?

what then happens if the target pre-empts? its even more lopsided, and its still lopsided if both had turns saved, or if an immediate counterstrike is scheduled

its just a bit too meta, the attacker has to know how prepped and responsive a target is to judge the proper amount of firepower to bring to bear, and if you guess too low you lose so most people would bring extra

at least with fewer turns on hand and fewer readiness regained in the old days there was a lot less decided initially but now even an even war can be over in a few days

and when a war is over its over faster because the killing up now takes a bit more turns than killing down, where it used to be significantly the other way

lets all just agree wars are dumb and have a netting comp next set :P

what's that bsnake fool doing?

You did leave out the NW part of your rambling.

meh. fluff

Enshula... how about having 85% less countries than the tag hitting you?

+1

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