that is dropping to 1 acre and killing himself then creating countries and getting oop and dropping to 1 acre and killing them... lol sniping kills is one thing but killing yourself 40 times is just lame.

Sally Eight fluffs (#3290)
(Communism)
Clan: PANLVxGD
Rank: 1601
Networth: 156,931
Land: 2310
Successful Attack Percentage: 100%
Kills: 45
Dead

there ya go, boosted your death stats for you.

agreed

Sniping kills on yourself in a war, and doing that are both equally lame.

I think it's time to begin removing people from the leaderboards.

Natural Born Killer (#4109)
(Dictatorship)
Clan: FoCuSxGD
Rank: 1219
Networth: 2,394,576
Land: 4669
Successful Attack Percentage: 100%
Kills: 46

this guy cheated a little bit too.

Sounds like a plan, Slagpit.

Good eye, Synoder. You be, de Man!


Personally, I'm not so happy, that I'm anywhere near the top 10 in deaths.. It's not that cool of a distinction, frankly!


At least all my ass whuppins are legit.. :O)

whats the difference between killing your own countries or sniping a kill on one of your clanmates from the enemy? i mean really you wanna argue semantics. if thats the case NBK is gonna lose a whole lot of kills.

I could care less about the sniping of kills. I think it's kind of cheap and silly, but this is a game and if that entertains you, go for it. I'm not gonna come on the boards to raise a stink about it.

However, this is no different than sniping kills when someone in your clan is being killed (other than you), as Pain just pointed out. There was someone in NBK who was running a bunch of countries (one of which was named Tootsie Roll) that sniped a bunch of kills when we'd land kill because our speed wasn't as impressive on speed kills, since we were hitting humanitarian range quite often. It was pretty lame and it probably robbed me of 3-4 kills personally, and PAN/FoCuS from at least 8-10. Is it annoying? Yes. It is illegal? No.

Removing the kills from people who have killed in "unscrupulous" ways is going to open a door that I don't think you want to go down. Should llaar's NW and Land totals remain with the questionable, but not illegal, act of self-farming? It'd be hard to say yes if you're going to remove people's kills for self-killing.

Just keep in mind that, just like in team sports, there are "empty" stats. There are plenty of NBA stars you can point to who are capable of scoring 20 ppg, but some of them that do don't really help their teams win. There are plenty of MLB players who put up .300 batting averages (at least for a particular season), but if they do it by swinging. Some people have pretty "empty" kill and hit stats if they're in the business of sniping kills. Unless the admins want to set some type of precedent about issues they've previous ignored or even openly stated is not illegal (hitting one's own countries/clan), then I'm not sure there's anything to be done about this other than realizing it's annoying and moving on.

I wasn't implying that kills should be removed from the leaderboard but if kills against yourself or own tag didn't count it would be fine with me. I think if people want to pad stats they will find a way to do it but atleast it would take a little more effort. The admins did go to a lot of trouble to code all that though so keeping it somewhat legit would be nice.

As for sniping and killing yourself being the same I don't really follow that argument. Sniping kills takes some skill and luck cause you have to be on at the right time and also get the last hit which isn't as easy as it sounds when people are speed hitting. Dropping yourself to 1 acre while in protection then coming oop and killing yourself with 1 hit doesn't require any skill, luck, or timing. It's not like I am outraged about it, just pointing it out for others to see.

I owned that country you mentioned "tootsie roll" and none of the kills were on myself and I don't remember them even being landkills but I could be wrong on that. If those kills were removed from the stats then I am perfectly ok with it, I did it when I was trying to beat crippler to 100 kills and since then I haven't even attempted to snipe kills. I had plenty of mine sniped so I figure it all balances out at some point.

I don't see what the whining is about in this case though- unless you had a country that was competing for most kills, synoder? The top countries on that list legitimately had the most kills of the set, even not counting self-kills/snipes.

Now that the idea is out there though, this could turn into a mess next set if there's several people who are continually making restarts only to kill them for stats. You can make and kill several restarts a day without too much effort. Seems like a pretty easy fix though... stop counting self-kills.

Maybe take it further and stop counting same-tag kills.

Not counting same tag kills would just encourage cherry pickers to remain untagged, like synoder's 'tootsie' country did when it was picking our runs (Don't have anything against the act, just pointing out loopholes). I don't see the point in putting much weight in these numbers to be honest. Like Twain said.. it's a team effort, and these kinds of kills only waste your own turns and resources.