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VicRattlehead

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Nov 28th 2014, 19:37:49

Originally posted by SkyKing:

If they retal me later saying "retal", I'd for sure pop them again. If I took 100 acres early because you had no defense and you take 3k late then I feel I'm entitled to a retal. Some people might QQ that but you were that one that carried no defense early like this is a game of pattycake.

We are (obviously, given last set's events) on the same page here.

Chewi

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Nov 28th 2014, 19:40:34

Originally posted by SkyKing:

I outgrow my early hits as a tyr techer; however, this time I wanted a bit longer before I started banging and it seemed to work out a touch better. I only hit people who have the audacity to run no defense early being cheapskates. I always hit them. If they retal me later saying "retal", I'd for sure pop them again. If I took 100 acres early because you had no defense and you take 3k late then I feel I'm entitled to a retal. Some people might QQ that but you were that one that carried no defense early like this is a game of pattycake.

Don't stop with one hit. Keep hitting.

SkyKing

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Nov 28th 2014, 21:23:12

I feel like more than one hit and your kind of being a fluff asking for a legit retal later, but if you get popped you need to just shake these ones off because you asked for it.

edfjr

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Nov 28th 2014, 22:27:05

If I was gonna go casher, I would either do a tech start or build just IC's at the start. Bus and res buildings are the least productive buildings without tech. I know it seems foolish, but as a demo with no tech bus and res buildings make about $92 an acre assuming 40% of both buildings. $110 an acre as rep. IC's make 1.86 turrets an acre or @130 a turret $242 an acre as a demo.

As far as cashing goes gotta know which buildings you are getting and when. Then you can start to figure out how and when to get land, military, and tech.

SkyKing

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Nov 29th 2014, 18:34:05

Yeah its the holidays but I still want to attack stuff. More jets please.

Serpentor

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Nov 29th 2014, 20:14:37

No! If we sell no jets, then nobody can hit us back.

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SkyKing

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Nov 29th 2014, 20:29:17

I will just buy private market if I have to.

Serpentor

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Nov 30th 2014, 7:47:56

Not as many though... Lol

I put some on a few hours ago btw.

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Serpentor

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Nov 30th 2014, 21:34:54

Anyone else notice the extreme lack of land yet? I'm not out of targets yet, but dang dude... In a few days its gonna be some risky grabbing going on. Lol.

Fun fun fun a-coming!!!

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deezyboy

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Nov 30th 2014, 21:40:48

lots of big grabs going on up top look for lots of wars this set

edfjr

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Nov 30th 2014, 23:46:34

Lol commie on commie war. Military prices going up once they all kill each other. Whatever its gonna be a good show.

Ka Mac

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Dec 1st 2014, 1:21:00

Yeah, there will be lots of risky grabs in the next few days. :(

LATC

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Dec 1st 2014, 1:24:25

Hope they need lots of oil

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

Ka Mac

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Dec 1st 2014, 2:36:58

Are you running a hybrid oiler again LATC?

#8 and #35 started warring.

*grabs* popcorn. :)

LATC

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Dec 2nd 2014, 15:12:13

Retal time. Who to pick first....

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

Xinhuan

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Dec 3rd 2014, 12:35:53

Originally posted by deezyboy:

alright.. first off.. im gonna overlook that math.

second, heres my dilemma when i dont go all-x.. i either end up landfat because i dont have enough tech or i get grabbed because i keep my tech up and dont have enough defense.

so wtf am i doing and how should i remedy this.. ive tried building cs slower and more bus/res zones early. Even then i still dont have high enough tech to make me happy or enough military to even defend myself not to mention attack other people

You strike a balance between grabbing, teching up and military up. When I say grab from 2k land, I don't mean grab 1k land a day. It is perfectly fine to only grab 600a-700a, and spend the remainder turns building CS, and the money goes to tech/military so you don't get fat. The daily amount of land you grab will grow larger as your country grows.

The key point is, the turns you save from grabbing instead of exploring, goes directly into building CSes, which improves turn efficiency on the whole, allowing you to grow faster, bigger, better, stronger.

deezyboy

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Dec 3rd 2014, 17:19:11

thanks xin you rock as always

edfjr

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Dec 3rd 2014, 19:18:13

Except when you run out of targets. Then you go oh why didn't I explore to 8k land? Why did I hit the noobs when they had 4k land? They have 7k land now. I could've got so much more land hitting them now. Can't hit them now unless you want to break GDI.

SkyKing

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Dec 3rd 2014, 19:23:41

I'd rather break GDI.

edfjr

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Dec 3rd 2014, 19:31:38

Break GDI. Kinda rolling the dice there. If you do things the right way (my way). You can easily explore to 8-9k acres and still easily be in the top 10 for nw and land. Plus only have attacked half the amount that everyone else has. A lot of the top have attacked 70+ times. Gonna start to get sketchy from here on out like serp said. Unless you played the round out like I have. I still have lots of easy targets.

SkyKing

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Dec 3rd 2014, 22:42:55

When your running what I'm running attacking is your best friend. Back in the day, it was never a problem finding many many targets.

KoHeartsGPA

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Dec 4th 2014, 2:21:04

The thinning of the herd is hurting those players who have high land target for their goal

Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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Serpentor

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Dec 4th 2014, 4:07:00

May make things more interesting. More risky grabs means more war.

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Xinhuan

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Dec 4th 2014, 4:30:45

Originally posted by edfjr:

Grab smartly and you shouldn't run out of targets. I broke GDI on over 10? or 15 countries last set, and it was fine. Still finished second!

LATC

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Dec 4th 2014, 22:30:44

I'm surprised top cashers only have 22k acres with the military/tech prices. Last set cashers were 25-30k at the 1 month mark no? I guess food hasn't been nice for them, but to be behind 3-8k acres is significant.

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

SkyKing

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Dec 4th 2014, 23:45:18

Lack of targets and less acre bloat than last set I would imagine.

Ka Mac

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Dec 5th 2014, 3:39:54

I broke GDI on 2 countries already. :(

Ka Mac

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Dec 5th 2014, 11:08:02

fearvendor (#19) - self deleted. :(

p1co

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Dec 5th 2014, 23:04:49

^ :(

LATC

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Dec 5th 2014, 23:49:51

Originally posted by Ka Mac:

fearvendor (#19) - self deleted. :(

I guess fearpurchaser (#42) needs a new place to buy his fear from

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

SkyKing

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Dec 6th 2014, 3:07:29

Good call.
Also, I'm 100% sure I'm going to get retaled because I deserve it.

Ka Mac

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Dec 6th 2014, 5:45:18

2014-12-06 05:38:51 PS Black Infrared (#149) Waral (#78) 3154A (4497A)
2014-12-05 22:21:44 PS Waral (#78) Black Infrared (#149) 1031A (1740A)

Ouch!

grimjoww

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Dec 6th 2014, 5:45:58

whoever grabbed me with 1.2bil cash in hand ful weapons tech and mil strat is so lucky and even stole my cash before grabbing hehe

h2orich

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Dec 6th 2014, 6:38:00

Originally posted by LATC:

Hope they need lots of oil

thats because I'm not a casher this set.

SkyKing

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Dec 6th 2014, 9:32:56

Originally posted by grimjoww:

whoever grabbed me with 1.2bil cash in hand ful weapons tech and mil strat is so lucky and even stole my cash before grabbing hehe

Honestly, I knew it was a mistake before I did it. I was like I probably shouldn't do this but........ Sometimes it's hard to maintain discipline for 60 days; however, I certainly learned a lot about the farming strat in that moment. It has a multitude of benefits that I hadn't really even considered. This is only my second set back in over a decade and my first real attacking mistake so I'll take this one on the chin and keep trucking. Good luck to you.

Ka Mac

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Dec 6th 2014, 10:36:56

I spied a country today, nice land, I can break the defense. Did the calcs. Oh wait! There's 726M cash sitting there..... crap.... PASS!

:D

grimjoww

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Dec 6th 2014, 11:42:15

Originally posted by SkyKing:

Originally posted by grimjoww:

whoever grabbed me with 1.2bil cash in hand ful weapons tech and mil strat is so lucky and even stole my cash before grabbing hehe

oh it was you.. sorry for the retal mate :( and why the heck did u try to steal my cash ? hehe

VicRattlehead

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Dec 6th 2014, 15:22:28

Because you had SOOOOOOO much of it. :P

SkyKing

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Dec 6th 2014, 16:03:26

You have nothing to be sorry about. I stole your cash for a couple reasons. First, was testing %s. Second I realized how effective stealing could be for farmers with significant SPAL which would make a non-GDI dict farmer very appealing for me next set because I think it would be interesting to run. Finally, it was just sitting there. XD

silentwolf

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Dec 6th 2014, 22:10:55

Later guys ;)

LATC

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Dec 6th 2014, 23:48:44

Food is $370, oil is $398, jets/turrets are $130/$104.. poor commies

Also, CRAP, put in an SO for agri tech.. except I checked off "bushels"...

Edited By: LATC on Dec 6th 2014, 23:54:30

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

Marshal

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Dec 6th 2014, 23:57:54

who the hell buys 370 bucks bushels? even priv is cheaper.

Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

now im nothing

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Dec 7th 2014, 0:38:41

with the teeth UH

less defined as days go by. Fading away well you might say I am losing the focus. Kinda drifting into the abstract in terms of how I see myself

Ka Mac

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Dec 7th 2014, 4:11:15

Originally posted by LATC:

Food is $370, oil is $398, jets/turrets are $130/$104.. poor commies

Also, CRAP, put in an SO for agri tech.. except I checked off "bushels"...

Yeah, poor CI's.. poor me. :(

p1co

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Dec 7th 2014, 6:34:44

Originally posted by Ka Mac:

I spied a country today, nice land, I can break the defense. Did the calcs. Oh wait! There's 726M cash sitting there..... crap.... PASS!

:D

Why would you pass on the cash?

Does it serve as extra motivation for the country to strike back?

oldman

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Dec 7th 2014, 6:54:56

Originally posted by LATC:

I was 40722 acres at this point last set (turn 1775), cashing $23m/turn (18.8m/turn non cashing), both after expenses.
175% bus/res, 118% mil strat, 130% weap, 95% military. (~2M tech points).
19.5M NW, 6.4m jets, 11.4m turrets.

Ka Mac

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Dec 8th 2014, 1:41:11

Very few countries this set.

Xinhuan

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Dec 8th 2014, 3:05:41

http://www.earthempires.com/...ts-etc-34359?t=1417989052

TLDR Condensed version:

Change #1: You can burn (consume) oil to generate units instantly for purchase in Private Market.
Change #2: Reversion to original build cost formula: BuildCost = 3*land+1500
Change #3: Ghost-acre unit cap removed from FFA/MULTI-ALLOWED SERVERS ONLY.
Change #4: Earthquakes reduced from max 1 building destroyed per 300 buildings to max 1 per 500 buildings.

LATC

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Dec 8th 2014, 3:08:39

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Foe #2.. that makes it much cheaper to build at higher land than right now right?

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

Serpentor

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Dec 8th 2014, 8:00:25

Originally posted by oldman:

Originally posted by LATC:

This is a different set... That's for sure. I usually have no problems keeping my pace to 60k, but I feel it this round. I should be 40k by now, and I'm just shy of 30k. I know I missed a few days of grabbing due to "who cares", but still. It's slim pickings and food/oil are crazy. Military sux too. Lol

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