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Feb 9th 2023, 20:25:03

Originally posted by Coalie:
Congrats to DD the head of the resistance crushing team!

“Let’s take the trash out” hoorah!


Rent free in your brain. A post about mods and you've gotta make it about me.

Congrats Coalie, you've proven my point. Like I said, revert to copy/pasting from Reddit. I think we all like you better that way.

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Feb 9th 2023, 15:09:22

Coalie, go back to pulling your garbage from reddit. It's more entertaining.

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Feb 9th 2023, 11:40:23

Superfly - you're inability to tell how many members we have will benefit us greatly next round. It perplexes me, but it brings me joy nonetheless.

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Feb 9th 2023, 3:06:26

Oh and Celphi, you're MORE than welcome to join The Resistance. I guarantee fun, or your money back.

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Feb 9th 2023, 3:05:56

Dec 3 - Jan 10 - 167 posts.
Nov 11 - Dec 3 - 18 posts
Oct 5th - Nov 19th - 34 posts


Since my arrival on the scene - Jan 10th - Feb 8th - 672 posts.


The game has 100 players left. The game is stale. The game has nothing new. Nothing to do except play farmville. Nothing to talk, as evident by Coalie's entire communication method of pulling posts off reddit and putting them here.


I bring the noise, I bring the funk, I bring the fun and the excitement.

I may be hated, but you'd hate if I was gone. I give Simba a reason to breathe. Without me he would just wallow in his sadness everyday.

Whoever this Zack guy is... I know he didn't bring what I bring. I am a once in a generation event happening here. And no amount of hate will deter the course we are all on now.




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Feb 9th 2023, 2:57:43

I don't know who Zack is. Why does everyone keep asking me that?!?

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Feb 9th 2023, 2:52:41

Oh, Celphi. One other thing worth mentioning.

I'm the best thing that's happened to this game in a long time. No one will admit it out loud, but everyone knows it's true.

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Feb 9th 2023, 2:46:41

Originally posted by Celphi:
omg koh!

you saved me..

if thats his short version wtf is the long version?! actually., nvm.


My long versions are amazing. Absolutely fantastical.

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Feb 9th 2023, 2:45:28

Simba- I don't know if you've noticed, but I don't give a fluff what you say, what you want, or what you expect. I'm not here to dance for you, you're here to dance for me.

The norms you have, the expectations you hold... throw them all out the window. I'm not playing your game. I haven't from the start, and I never will.

You can hope for a good war. Well I hope for a fluff war. You you think got your team and I got mine... We will see if that's even accurate.

No more talk? Now I'm going to talk more, just to piss you off.


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Feb 9th 2023, 2:42:13

Ya know, KoHearts summation is also largely accurate, albeit lacking details.

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Feb 9th 2023, 2:39:24

God damnit, I did the best I could.

KoHearts - Im planning on posting a manifesto soon. Don't even bother clicking on the thread. It'll give you an aneurysm.

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Feb 9th 2023, 2:35:55

Celphi, I can fill you in. But simba, derrick, coalie and the rest of the crew probably will have a different version of events and a different story.


Long story short though.

Few new players are in the game (myself and ted included).

We use game mechanics available to us, and attack people. Apparently you aren't supposed to do that. And we get murdered by a lot of people.

Next round we decide to band together to fight our murders (Darkness) We had 4 people (which turned into 3 after thestupid quit), and we thought we were fighting 4 on 5. Turns out it was 4 (then 3) on 11. We get steamrolled.

I learn the new rules, there are no rules. So I start The Resistance. And I engage in a crap ton of propaganda. Why? Because Darkness is the baddest team around, and has been for a decade. Nobody knows me, so why would anybody join me?

I have two choices. Back down, or use every tool I have at my disposal to formulate a plan and execute it.

I chose the latter. I initially used my words and propaganda as my only tool. Tertius and others that are mostly unbiased will have grievances with my inconsistency in my messaging. But what they don't seem to get is all of the forum posts had one aim and one aim only. Create a name for myself, and drum up support.

Coalie, Derrick, the whole lot of them REALLY hated this. They dislike me, a lot. And they also think I've done an awful job.

But objectively, I haven't. I've done such a good job that I've actually lured multiple vets onto our team, as well as recruited a bunch of new players.

Our numbers have grown so much that Darkness is actively recruiting themselves, as they are nervous about our numbers next round.


This has all transpired in a short period of time. During this time myself and my team have learned a lot about the game mechanics, but still have a lot more to learn. We've enlisted the help of Gerdler and a few others. Darkness will claim that Gerdler is leading us now, despite him stating he isn't, myself stating he isn't, and there not actually being any evidence that he is. They will probably repeat it again in here though.


Oh I guess one other important thing. We did war this round. We got worked over initially. 11-0 on kills. We've fought back, but are at a huge disadvantage. Overall we've definitely lost, but I'd say we've got some momentum and have gained a lot of experience fighting wars, which will help us tremendously in teh future.


That's as good a summation as I can provide, hopefully it wasn't too long.

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Feb 8th 2023, 22:21:15

Derrick, you don't get to participate in the fun. If you want to play, you gotta make a country. Make sure you name it Derrick so I know who to blow up first though.

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Feb 8th 2023, 13:44:32

Goal posts it is!

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Feb 8th 2023, 12:16:10

As the team server round comes to an end, I feel it's appropriate to reflect on what the expectations were, and what the end result was.


If you go back and read through previous threads, I believe by this point in time all of my teammates in The Resistance should have quit. We should probably have 1 or 2 people left. And we obviously didn't have any success. No kills, just constant death. Completely oblitereated to the point that Darkness didn't even care we existed anymore.


Now let's look at what really happened.


Prior to January 27th, Darkness had 11 kills on us, and we had 0. We didn't actually know HOW to kill someone prior to that date! Since then, Darkness has had about 15-16 kills. Meanwhile The Resistance has had about 10 kills (a little tough to tell cause some people were untagged in the fights initially).

Well done Darkness. Once your opponent full of mostly newbies learned how to kill someone, you beat them 15-10. After they were already at a huge disadvantage in the game due to being killed initially. You guys are SOOOOO AMAZING!!!! GOD LIKE! Hahahahahahahahhaaha


Some other interesting things to point out. Darkness felt the need to recruit more people as the round went on. Not sure why they would do that against a non-threat.

Darkness has also been begging other alliances to come help them next round against us. That's freaking hilarious. This big bad wolf needs to bring in more help.


In the meantime, The Resistance has grown. Just as I have foretold. They've grown in numbers. They've grown in skill. Vets are coming to join The Resistance now. The future is bright for The Resistance.



The best, absolutely most amazing outcome of all of this is the following.


The Resistance lives rent free in the minds of The Darkness. We have literally consumed them. They cannot even stand the sight of my name without going into a full rage. This post alone will spawn a multi page rebuttal of fools attempting to crawl over one another for a shot at insulting me. At the drop of a coin, I just pull on some strings, and I make these puppets dance.


You watch. Even with me calling it out specifically, they absolutely cannot resist. Coalie just learned how to use photoshop, so he's probably going to post another picture. I bet his mom hangs his pictures on the fridge now. Symba made an alternate account just to insult me twice. Sfbob is trying soooo very hard. We still don't know who he is though.

So many characters for me to control. So many caricatures of personalities we all get to laugh at. It's a treasure trove of entertainment.


Alright - Darkness. The balls in your court. Tell me why I suck today. Or maybe move some goalposts around. Or if you want you can beat your chests about how amazing you guys are... although I'd be careful with that with all the deaths you've all had lately. You might look stupid.


What's it gonna be? Insults, Goalposts, or Bragging?

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Feb 8th 2023, 11:59:51

Originally posted by Josey Wales:
Let’s dance.



Who are you and why are you obsessed with me? Did you post from your alternate account or something, cause I've never heard of you and I've never spoken to you. But for some reason you thought I called you out, and you attacked me in game. Which is totally fine... but again... Who are you?

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Feb 6th 2023, 23:50:33

Ya know, there is trash talking and fun, kinda like what Super did. And then there is just being a prick. Well done Coalie and Skol, you've both shown us what being a prick looks like.


You can think whatever you want about me, but I think any unbiased person would agree that I am A. Trying to bring some fun to the game. And B. Trying to improve the player base. I've literally been recrutiing people off reddit to come play. My team is responsible for probably bringing 10-15 new people to the game in the last month.

I have an active discord chat that includes one of the best players in the game in it. I have lots of very active players that are passionate about the game, and want to get other new players involved. Just last night we included two new players in an operation and kill on a darkness member in team server.


But sure, go ahead and be pricks about us trying to invite a new player to come play with us and have fun.

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Feb 6th 2023, 23:43:32

Coalie, no one was going to let you run a tag, so that wasn't going to happen.

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Feb 6th 2023, 2:52:49

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by BlackHole:
Your face is plain ole sad.


To be expected after seeing yours.....


Well played sir.

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Feb 6th 2023, 2:52:29

Coalie 1v1 next round. EZ Clap right? Let's do it homie.

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Feb 6th 2023, 2:10:26

Your face is plain ole sad.

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Feb 6th 2023, 2:07:38

KoHearts - that makes me extremely happy.

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Feb 6th 2023, 0:39:32

Originally posted by Coalie:
Originally posted by Leto:
Good morning,

I need a contact for Resist

Thanks


Crush him.



Coalie, what made you so angry in life?

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Feb 6th 2023, 0:38:52

Super is a misinformation specialist. Ignore him. Plus super, he's already joined our team. BACK OFF! :P

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Feb 5th 2023, 23:11:59

Captain - I run The Resistance. We play on Alliance and Team. We are super active and SUPER noob friendly. We have a lot of new players. We are also just a fluff ton of fun. Let's chat.

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Feb 5th 2023, 23:09:10

That sounds like a dream come true, SFbob.

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Feb 5th 2023, 19:15:33

Originally posted by sfbob:
No


Then you don't get to be on a team!

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Feb 5th 2023, 18:42:07

This is not an idea for next round, as war is coming... but in future rounds, I have an idea.


How would people feel about actual 5 man teams, enforced by everyone on the server - but here's the kicker - the teams are made up of randomly drafted players.


The goal of the set will be to be the top team in total networth. If you're not first, you're last. Anything goes. All out war to bring down other 5 man teams. A free for all, if you will.


My thought process is it could break up the monotony of doing the same thing round after round.


Would anyone be interested in that?

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Feb 5th 2023, 18:34:33

They must also worship our gods, and give up their gods.

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Feb 5th 2023, 18:18:33

It's me, Leto. If you want to find me on discord it's Cuda#3424

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Feb 4th 2023, 15:22:10

Thanks Derrick. DD actually told me it was 60% of troop totals earlier, so yea you were pretty close.

This is good info, thank you.

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Feb 4th 2023, 13:36:47

Originally posted by SuperFly:
Yo dog how many did u kill Friday? We made 3 more of you dead



We didn't kill any. But we did delay someone going to sleep for a period of time. In my book, that's a win. I hope he had a terrible nights sleep, and wakes up with bags under his eyes.

Don't want to look ugly the next morning? Stop being so dedicated to walling. Turn off your phones!

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Feb 4th 2023, 13:18:52

So I'm learning that things like cause dissension are more effective if you have more troops.

And I know that spy effectiveness of attacks decreases the more attacks you do.

But I'm wondering if anyone can point me to actual formulas on these things.

In particular I'm interested in demoralize, cause dissension, bomb air bases, maybe raid food stores or bomb banks? I don't know if those are ever used or not? Attack intelligence centers?

I'd really like to gain more knowledge into how these aspects of the game work in a more detailed way.

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Feb 3rd 2023, 12:04:33

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
Eyyy Gerdy. You should show this fella how to look up profiles off the leaderboards next and how to see who was in each clan last set. It might help him know who is who instead of bickering with everyone at once because he thinks everyone is in one tag. Context can be very insightful!


Maybe I like bickering with everyone, you ever consider that.



You know... I'm a confident person. I know i'm pretty awesome. But I still amaze myself sometimes. The gravity I have. It's just like a black hole. I've sucked you all in to my little game. The entire team server has been swallowed up and revolves around my teams actions. All of Darkness, Fast Cars, Taker. You're all hyper focused on us.

Look at the players I've brought to the server. When I take a vacation from the boards for three days, it's like a natural disaster occurred and the player base leaves.


Ya'll should be thanking me. Groveling at my feet. I'm like eminem. "But it feels so empty without me".


Can't wait to show ya'll what tricks I have up my sleeve for next set, and what roles I have for you all to play in my little circus. Symba, I'm going to dress you up like a clown and make you dance for everyone. The rest, you'll just have to wait and see.

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Feb 3rd 2023, 2:02:21

Originally posted by Symbolic:
Originally posted by BlackHole:
Originally posted by Symbolic:
Congrats :D you got the same one again!



Maybe you should cut the dead weight you're carrying around then, Symba.

https://imgur.com/q2VEDxU


If you wanna go by those standards you all should have self deleted a long time ago to save the time of us crushing your country's.


Crushing our countries by having 4 deaths to us in 24 hours? Symba, you little baby lion you.... You've got a nice roar you're trying to develop. But right now it's just comical.

I think your squad needs a better leader. Maybe give the reins to super. Or see if DD or Derrick are willing to come over to teams to help you out. You really shouldn't be losing any countries to us. Your dad is going to be very disappointed that you're ruining the families good name.

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Feb 3rd 2023, 1:52:01

Originally posted by SuperFly:
You technically keep killing the same guy over and over again. Clearly this guy is busy either making lots of money at his job, plowing his girl with his big hammer, walking his dog or driving his sports car.

He might not have as much free time to kill like your puppet pawn recruit Gerdler who gave us the masterclass of walling 800 attacks lol

Btw i honestly have one beef with you right now.

You have seriously not given Gerdler any recognition or praise on these boards for carrying your entire dead weight team on his back. You guys better be rubbing him off behind close doors cuz here in public you are really treating him like a puppet pawn noob as you have alluded….



I'd give praise to Gerdler if he were leading the attacks. He has not. You don't have to believe me, but ask him. I'll give him credit as being the main breaker on one of the 4 kills. The other three he barely participated in.

So what credit do you think I need to give him? You do realize we killed one of you and taker before Gerd ever even arrived on team, right?

Our upswing hasn't happened overnight. It seems you're starting to take notice though.


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Feb 3rd 2023, 1:43:54

I suck a LOT!!!

Superfly, try to keep up man. I've been saying that all along. That's why what is happening to Darkness is so embarrassing. How do you guys keep dying to us? It's really concerning. I think you guys might not be the Gods you've been made out to be.

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Feb 3rd 2023, 1:39:15

[quote poster=SuperFly; 51581; 1005573]You killed a restart! Happy days! You have kills 4 kills on darkness and you have died 4 times this round and been deleted 3 times in the last 3 weeks.

Happy days!

Jaguar S type (#86)
(Fascism)
Clan: Darkness
Rank: 43
Networth: 1,268,821
Land: 3652
Kills: 1
Dead
Restarted From
Jaguar E Type (#28) [Darkness]
[/quote]



Super - are those goalposts you keep moving heavy?


We killed a restart. That we killed the first time.

So we've killed him twice. Tell him to stop sucking, he just died to a bunch of noobs, AGAIN. Pathetic.

You need to cut the dead weight from your team. They are making you look bad.

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Feb 3rd 2023, 1:30:56

Originally posted by Symbolic:
Congrats :D you got the same one again!



Maybe you should cut the dead weight you're carrying around then, Symba.

https://imgur.com/q2VEDxU

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Feb 3rd 2023, 1:29:24

Coalie - This is for you sweetheart.

https://imgur.com/a/HHHSruf

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Feb 3rd 2023, 1:10:46

Guys - I'm so sorry.

This thread has some misinformation in it.


It's actually 4 kills on Darkness in 24 hours, not three. We just added another to the list.

It took us 4 minutes.


Have fun walling with that speed, Darkness. Hope we don't catch you while you're taking a fluff. You won't even have a chance to wash your hands.

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Feb 2nd 2023, 23:12:44

Originally posted by SuperFly:
Shizzzz the great King and leader of resistance has fallen I mean Black holes pawn / foot soldier Gerdler has fallen.

Without his giant manhood leading the charge how will resistance penetrate the remaining weak and defenseless darkness countries?



You just killed a distraction. You wasted nearly 800 turns and a good 700k troops doing it, from the looks of it.

I was able to successfully recruit a bullseye that you just wasted a ton of turns on. Turns you couldn't use on the rest of us. Playing into my trap again. Nicely done.

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Feb 2nd 2023, 18:19:39

Coalie, get off reddit and bring your own content.

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Feb 2nd 2023, 17:55:40

Originally posted by SuperFly:
Also Black Hole swore that he would never post again and here he is posting to defend his position as king

I haz attached personal eye witness evidence from discord of how the fight for the resistance throne is going behind close doors

https://i.imgur.com/BFQiraY.jpg


#propaganda #IdoLoveU4Realz #Trump2024 #MakeEarthEmpireGreatAgain #Darkness #MilkCarton #TacoBoobs #GalleriQueenMod



And you believed me? Of course I was going to post again. I've said from day 1 this board is my propaganda outlet. You guys are playing checkers, while I'm out here playing chess.


I've used you all like pawns. How do you think I recruited Gerd? Two months ago we were 3 noobs that just got our faces stomped by the 15 Darkness players.

And that's when the propaganda begin.

Now look at where we are. That wasn't by accident. This wasn't just fate. This was due to my carefully crafted plans. And you've all played right into them every step of the way. Every response you give me. Every chat you send me. Every attack you make. All of it. According to plan.

And you can keep telling yourself you're all doing awesome, and we are garbage. But everyone knows what's happening, and has probably known since about a week after my arrival.


This time it's different. You've had the pleasure of being exposed to a once in a generation type of person. You can see that it's different this time. You feel it in your bones. But you don't know how to process it. You don't know how to fight it, cause you've never had to before. So you flail around, moving goalposts, making excuses, flinging insults.

And the only result it has is that we continue to gain strength.


And gain strength we have. It is an absolute fact. Indisputable. We went from 3 members who never even got an attack off. To 3 members who harassed you. To about 7 members who made some stupid mistakes OOP and didn't do much beyond that. To about 10 people who managed to kill one of you. To how many now? See, you don't even actually know. You have no idea whose with us. You have no idea our size, or our strength. All you know is we've achieved 5 kills this set now. Three in the last 24 hours. And it's unnerving to you. You see the change. You feel the wind switching directions. The chill in the air. But like people in the 1500's facing down a hurricane, they don't understand it. They see it. But they don't know why. They don't know how. They don't know what to expect next. And so they do the only thing they can do. They run their mouths and wait for the eye to pass over them.


Sure, it doesn't pass over them instantly. It takes time to arrive. But it does arrive, nonetheless. And no amount of screaming and yelling at that storm will change the inevitable. You cannot stop the hurricane, and you will not stop us.


But please, bring the noise. Bring the funk. I like to dance, and I like the audience. I feel like this game is a spectators sport. The more you fight, the more you struggle, the more you claim 'THEY CAN'T BE, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE', the more I thrive.

I absolutely cannot wait until next week when I get to hear a new round of excuses. When I get to hear new reasons as to why I'm not a real leader, and why are successes shouldn't be considered.


Just know this. People are laughing at you. This is absolutely pathetic. You should not be having these sorts of troubles with The Resistance.

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Feb 2nd 2023, 16:07:47

When the King of England fond a war general, was he no longer the king?

The problem here, Superfly, is you aren't a leader. So you don't recognize what leadership looks like.

That's ok. You're going to learn. Watch a real leader in action. I think you see what's coming. You're already admitting that you're going to have a harder time with The Resistance.

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Feb 2nd 2023, 13:56:35

Superfly - you sound like a whiney little kid who just got beat up on the playground and is now making excuses as to why he didn't get beat up.


I don't care who you think the leader is. The fact of the matter is The Resistance just pushed your face in. Three times. In a day.

Go cry about it.

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Feb 2nd 2023, 12:32:56

I should add one more thing, Superfly.

If you're going 3 for 3 with us, that's a HUGE disappointment. Come on bro. You're the greatest team to ever play this game. And you're playing against a bunch of noobs with a toxic leader.


How in the hell did we get three kills on you in under 24 hours? That's absolutely embarrassing. The fact that we are even able to still attack you is embarrassing, and you should be embarrassed.

This is an NFL team playing against a JV high school team. And you're bragging cause the score is 21-14.


LOL. NOT A TIME TO BRAG MAN. Ya'll gotta do a LOT better if you don't want to be laughed at.

Did you know that I didn't even know how readiness worked yesterday when we notched our third kill?!? I had no idea why tyranny countries were losing so much readiness. Dude.... how the hell do you get killed by someone who doesn't even understand the basics of the game yet?


Absolutely pathetic. I'm disappointed. I thought it wouldn't be possible to get even a single kill, much less 3 in 24 hours.


I think you guys are going to need to bring a bigger team next set.

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Feb 2nd 2023, 11:51:21

Originally posted by SuperFly:
Black Hole that you bro??????

We see your 3 kills and also raise you 3 of our kills.

Praise your new leader Gerdler in bringing you the wall tag and your first kills!

May he lead you to great glorious ruin!


Continue to doubt me. Continue to downplay our achievements.

Do you want to know why I've been able to recruit Gerdler, BigPapi, and a few more surprises I'll have for you in the coming rounds? As well as bring all these new people along?


Its simple.... Derrick had it right in that previous post. It's cause I'm a toxic, bad leader. Symba had it right. It's cause I'm terrible at this game and am a stubborn fluff. You had it right, it's cause I'm going to quit within a round, just like everyone else. All my teammates are going to quit from being killed so much.


Wait a minute... none of that makes sense does it? Oh fluff.


MAYBE - JUST MAYBE, I am actually bringing something to the table. Maybe I'm not a toxic leader. Maybe everyone is joining me because of Darkness making themselves look like fools on the forums, and making me look amazing in comparison.


Oh and just for the record, Ive led everyone of those kill runs so far, Super. And even if I hadn't...


You know what makes a good leader? Someone who can bring in people better than himself and delegate. Even if Gerd had run all the ops for me, so what? That wouldn't change a thing. Not a damn thing.


Next set is going to be an absolute bloodbath. And I can't wait to hear your excuses. Ya'll better start moving the goalposts now, cause as it stands, I'm expecting everyone on my team to have quit the game by the end of next set.

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Jan 30th 2023, 23:32:32

This will be my final post. I will not respond to anyone, so save your insults. This is not intended to be received by Darkness, but for everyone else on this server and in this game.

There has been much debate about who was in the wrong, who threatened who, and ultimately who was at fault for the degrading relationship between myself, The Resistance, and Darkness.

I have been told that I am a toxic leader, amongst other things. I have been told that if I'm amendable and polite, that Darkness would be happy to set terms for war with me. Or that we could surrender and they wouldn't attack us. And that I am the bad guy for seeking to ruin the game for others, or run people off the server.

I have been chastised for not knowing server history dating back years. And ultimately, I have been vilified and made to be the bad guy.

I am going to share with you a few pieces of conversation that prove otherwise. I'll make a plea to the players of this server, and then you'll never hear from me again.



Cloud/Dark Demon has been extremely helpful, and offered to help The Resistance get setup on IRC and access to some of the tools others have in this game. I reluctantly accepted his help. The reason for my reluctance is that Demon is the leader of Darkness/Mercs and I didn't want anyone to be able to hold their help over our heads. Previous interactions with Demon had been great, however. And I was implored by others to accept the help, and told that Demon was a great guy.

Those things were all true. I want to publicly thank Demon for his assistance. He is a wonderful person, and a great representative of this community. I wish more new people had interactions with him, as opposed to others.



Over the past few days I had ceased communication on these boards, in game, and in private messages with all those that I felt had been harassing and aggressive toward me. I simply did not want to engage with any of them anymore, as I felt like the conversation was devolving into personal attacks and name calling. Perhaps I was at fault for this, perhaps I was not. I did not much care, I was just seeking to fix it. And I thought the best way to fix it was to cease the bickering and fighting, and to just play the game.

Symbolic was not happy about this, apparently.

Today he joined our private IRC chat room. I am going to post the contents of the conversation for all to see. I am doing this because I think it is important for everyone to be aware of how Symbolic, as the leader of Darkness, and the rest of Darkness, treat other people. This treatment has been the basis of my initial reaction and complaint, and continues to be.

Further, this treatment is a contributor to the dwindling of this game. For every person who is treated like this, that's one less person that sticks around and plays this game long term. And that's one more bot ya'll get to play with instead. I can't imagine this is something ANYONE wants.




[15:34:05] <BlackHole> Are you symbolic or bobby?!?
[15:34:26] <BlackHole> You're symbolic... right?
[15:38:12] <Symbolic> Yes
[15:38:17] <Symbolic> I am symbolic
[15:45:47] <BlackHole> Why are you here?
[15:47:43] <Symbolic> I wanted to see what demon set up for you guys
[15:47:55] <BlackHole> You have no business being here. Please leave and don't return.
[15:48:42] <Symbolic> I think we got off on the wrong foot man.
[15:48:54] <BlackHole> You bet we did.
[15:49:00] <BlackHole> Or I bet we did.
[15:49:10] <BlackHole> Someone bets we did. Basically, I'm saying, yes. We did. We are on the wrong foots.
[15:49:30] <Symbolic> Like opposite fonts?
[15:49:33] <Symbolic> Foots
[15:49:41] <BlackHole> Exactly.
[15:52:17] <Symbolic> Lol
[15:54:09] <BlackHole> Are we done here?
[16:00:26] <Symbolic> Hate will only burn you up. I could show you how to run this warbot
[16:00:33] <Symbolic> Or I could fluff off
[16:00:53] <Symbolic> I don't hold grudges.
[16:12:13] <Symbolic> Your choice blackhole
[16:12:29] <cloud-demon> Sup
[16:13:17] <cloud-demon> Symbolic
[16:13:58] <cloud-demon> Is my partner in crime
[16:14:00] <cloud-demon> BlackHole
[16:14:07] <cloud-demon> What’s good
[16:21:00] <BlackHole> Symbolic - I don't hate anyone in this context.
[16:22:41] <BlackHole> I have no interest in debating with you the merits of who should/could hold grudges against whom. I have removed myself from the conversation for a reason. I have not responded to any of your messages for a reason. I have no interest in engaging in any further dialogue with you. I think we've had enough of that on the forums, and I've learned my lesson.
[16:25:58] <BlackHole> Lastly - I do not need, nor want your help. I especially don't want the help of individuals who call me a toxic leader, or insult me publicly, as you and many in your team have. You have a right to those thoughts, and I will not seek to change your mind. But please know that I do not wish to engage in any way with people who feel that way about me, nor do I wish to be your charity case. I don't want your help. I don't need your help. Perhaps when we are at a point where you are no longer insulting me, and threatening me with 'well you can publicly surrender on these boards' we may be able to engage in more meaningful dialogue. But we clearly aren't at that point, as such, I have no desire to engage in any dialogue with you.
[16:26:29] <BlackHole> The only request I have is that you do not come back into our room. If you want to send me a message, you can do so privately on discord, or in game.
[16:31:02] <Symbolic> I never called you a toxic leader
[16:31:21] <Symbolic> You threatened us first
[16:32:05] <Symbolic> Those people acted on there own behalf
[16:33:59] <Symbolic> I was point out how your own post was triggering people to do what they where doing
[16:52:13] <cloud-demon> Ooo
[16:56:23] <BlackHole> Symbolic - I am done pleading my case, I have no desire to dispute or refute your statements. I've done that ad nasuem. We don't agree. That is why I have removed myself from the conversation.
[16:56:54] <BlackHole> If I am to blame, then I am to blame. I am rectifying that situation by ceasing communication with those that I have disputes with, you are included in 'those'.
[17:05:34] <Symbolic> No your just being a stubborn fluff. We thought helping you guys would change your mind and we could settle things
[17:05:49] <Symbolic> But I see thats not the case.
[17:33:50] <BlackHole> Symbolic - This is exhibit a. I get that you disagree with me. But I've been nothing but polite in this conversation. I've not personally insulted you, I've simply said we disagree and I do not wish to engage any further. Your reaction is to insult and name call me, again. This is precisely why I do not wish to engage any further. You're not being nice. You are being aggressive toward someone who doesn't want to see it your way. This is the foundation of our entire 'misunderstanding' and relationship. We do not see eye to eye. I am fine with that. I was hoping to have some fun in game, with that in mind. You are not fine with that. You (and most of your teammates) are looking to bully and name call me BECAUSE we disagree. You can tell me I'm wrong without calling me a stubborn fluff. You can tell me that you want to war with, without name calling and insulting. Well, maybe you can't, but you should be able to. Until you can do that, and until the rest of your clan can do that, I have nothing to say to any of you. Perhaps this is what you want, perhaps this is for the better. I thought I was bringing fun and levity to the game and the forums. But I got met with animosity at every turn. Yea, I know, you're going ot say I'm the one who as animous and aggressive and threatening. Again, we disagree. But I'm not the one name calling and insulting here. You are. Due to that. I'm done. Now please leave our room.
[17:34:27] <Symbolic> Make me
[17:34:49] <BlackHole> I'm happy to oblige.



I would like to bring attention to a few things in this conversation.

First and foremost, Symbolic continues to engage aggressively and personally insult me because I was not willing to agree with him and do things his way.

Second - Symbolic did indeed attempt to hold the 'help' over my head. His stated that he had hoped that if they helped us, we would change our minds, and see things their way. This is precisely why I didn't want the help to begin with.

Third - When it was clear that we weren't going to amicably resolve things, instead of acting like an adult, Symbolic acted like a child with the 'make me' remark. At the time I wasn't Op'd in the channel, and I assume he thought I didn't have the ability to actually kick him from the channel. He was wrong. I wish he would have just left willingly, but I had to kick/ban him since he would not.


This was not the end of it, however. After doing that, I received a few nice messages from Symbolic on discord.

Symbolic — Today at 6:02 PM
See you on the battle field, for sets to come. Good luck your gonna need it.
Thats not a threat, its a promise.
Cuda — Today at 6:16 PM
Anything else?
Symbolic — Today at 6:21 PM
No that about covers it. Just you at the bottom of my boot.
Cuda — Today at 6:22 PM
What is your intention? What if we don't want to fight anymore?
Are you going to continue to attack/harass us simply because I don't want to agree with you?
Symbolic — Today at 6:23 PM
Yep
Cuda — Today at 6:23 PM
And when will you stop?
Symbolic — Today at 6:23 PM
Intill I burn you out.
Cuda — Today at 6:23 PM
As in you want me to quit the game?
Symbolic — Today at 6:23 PM
Have fun.

So now Symbolic is telling me that he's going to beat us down for sets to come.

So all this time, we were the ones threatening, ruining the game, seeking to run people off the servers and ruin the game for people.

Yet it seems that wasn't/isn't the case at all. That's actually exactly what Symbolic is doing here.



The reality of the situation is Symbolic is everything I said he was, and this is absolute proof of that.


Now I don't have any illusion that a bunch of new players in their third round are going to easily defeat a well oiled machine. This will be an uphill battle that we will likely struggle with.


But that can change. It doesn't have to be this way. There have been many of you that have sought to keep myself and my team in the game. You've privately messaged me showing us support, asking us not to leave, telling me you're rooting for us, and ultimately hoping that we would stay in the game, because more players is better than less.


Here is my ask.

I'm asking veterans of this game to stand with me, stand with The Resistance, and help us fight back. If you're a member of Darkness but you disagree with this way of approaching new players, leave. Come join us. Help us create a new era in this game. One where we treat others with respect, encourage new players to stay, grow and learn, and where we keep disputes civil. There is nothing wrong with warring in this game. I think it's a really fun aspect of the game. But there absolutely is something wrong with personal attacks, insults, harassment, childish behavior, and ultimately seeking to ruin the game for others and run them out of the game.

This is exactly what Symbolic is admitting to doing, telling me he's going to do, and based on reading the histories has done to others in the past. This is even a violation of the in game rules, and Symbolic has openly admitted to seeking to violate them.

He is actively hurting this game. And I want that to stop.


Come join me. Don't just express your support in words, do it in actions. We need your help.



Are the players of this game going to allow this behavior to go unchecked? Is this how you want the game to be? Is this how you want interactions between players to be?

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Jan 28th 2023, 12:28:14

OK - so stop posting on the boards. Got it.

Thanks Symbolic. If you have any other tips for me, please send me a message.