I didn't say you can't war.

I said that your suiciding on Evo failed, and that the scoreboard backs that up.

nice work!
I believe I stand on original offender owes cartons though lol
to your FA for saving the day as well :P

People not checking which server, and not double checking both number and country name before hitting.

Still not a great time to be had.
Someone owes at least one carton, probably more.

I don't need to play for either team.
Just have to, as they say, "Look at the scoreboard"
And the scoreboard says you failed.

I'm not forcing you to use discord or anything else.
I'm explaining my own history in the game, that warring more than netting has been my thing.
That being a part of the clans kill team and taking care of suiciders has also been my role, and as a result, overall net worth for me has been a secondary consideration.

That said, if you only consider getting rank #1 as a proof of being good at the game, you're straight up ignoring multiple aspects, and tbh, that's your problem, not mine.

Evo's high NW has nothing to do with "getting FA'd by the entire server", but has to do with their player skill, but you do you.

Speaking of ANW's.
Evo, with 9 members, currently the highest ANW at 8.6 mil, followed by Paradigm at 19 members and 7.5 mil.

In terms of TNW, Evo currently ranks 4th, at 86.2 mil
M4D is currently top with 31 members and 212 mil
Paradigm 2nd with 19 members and 142 mil
SoL 3rd with 17 members and 107 mil

After Evo, you have mercs with 15 and 84 mil
And SoF with 13 members and 82 mil

The stats don't lie.
You failed.
Highest ANW by over 1 mil per country
4th overall for TNW
For an alliance who ranks 7th for members.

you'll forgive me for a) having only recently come back out of retirement, and b) having always preferred to play a mid range speed hitting war country. I've only started netgaining some the last few sets.

Come back to me when you're capable of leading, or actively have led, war chats for 300+ countries eh?

Before I forget, no, I'm not seething, just correcting you, and laughing at you basically.

You made grandiose claims about all this "damage" you've done, and yet, the facts are, even now, your damage done to evo is effectively nonexistent (given they already have the highest ANW on the server), and, come end of set, they will make up the majority of the top 10.

If you had done all the damage you claim, then neither of those things would be true.

Just sayin'

the correct authorisation forms to do so have been filed in triplicate, lost, found, lost again, found again, and finally, fed to the ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal, as is proper and appropriate.

My impression is that, at present, VPN's are basically an auto ban, as there was a run of them being used specifically so people could run multis.

My impression could be wrong, mind ypu

probably DruncK ;)

I acted, I removed doug from leadership. He's still a member of Paradigm, his country is still alive, and tagged.
You could even ingame search if you don't believe me 🤷‍♂️

I understand Josey.
You still hate me because I acted to remove doug from Paradigm leadership.
It's all good.
You do you boo.

Forgive me, but to the average person that definitely looks like a claim that M4D are cheating. And you have actively claimed in other threads that they're running multis

You've made multiple claims about M4D currently cheating. Do you have any evidence to bear it out, like say, some purpled countries for example?

Otherwise, if you're continuing to make claims that are not borne out by the current facts as they stand publicly, then yeah, that is a detachment from reality :/

If you have evidence, pass it to the mods for them to act on :)

I have my moments.
Probably the only one for the next few sets.
Think some blood may have crept back into my alcohol/caffeine system ;)

what damage have you done exactly?

You suicided evo, and yet, somehow, they're still the highest ANW clan in alliance so far, and will probably take up the majority of the top 10 positions.
So, your suiciding was pointless.

Superfly's country is alive.
Evo haven't hit him despite your clumsy efforts.

So, another failure there.

you barely make it out of protection at this point.
So yeah, hate to say it, but this is an all round failure at this point.
You've achieved none of the things you wanted, and instead made yourself a laughing stock of the entire community for your twists of logic and seeming victim complex.
Your story about why you suicided evo has changed as well, initially it was "because they didn't kill superfly", now suddenly "it's because they're a coalition with mercs".
gee. alliances have pacts to aid others they're friendly with, who'd have thunk it?

so what success exactly do you have?
You can't even pull an english cricket team and call a "moral victory", when the reality is that it was you who went on the attack, not the other way round.

5 is fine.
Well 4, plus any number of SS hits.
means you need to think a bit about which countries you're going to PS to make them count :)

*tips Kraken and coke*
Cheers SF!
One back at you mate.

Coalie is correct though.
you decided to attack superfly after he did some regular spy ops on your countries.
Then, after YOU said that you were done having killed SF, Cathankins dumped missiles on further Mercs countries.

Mercs then decided, quite reasonably, that that was an act of war/griefing, and killed you.
Mercs allies also came to the party, because you hit their friends, and that's what pacted allies do.

You and Cathankins then came here complaining about bullying.
You and Cathankins then decided to hit Evo this set, because they haven't hit superfly
*although, Cathankins reasoning for this has suddenly changed to "because they are a coalition", although, still also because Superfly.

You've also, despite the record showing to the contrary, tried to claim that it's mercs fault, and that somehow, they're at fault for coming to Evo's aid.

Cathankins has also actively threatened to run Evo, Mercs, SoF and SoL off the server.

At this stage, you're basically only digging yourself deeper in the hole man.

The best thing you could do would be to admit you done messed up, apologise to evo, and look into some form of negotiations with them to extricate yourself.

None of this is dictating, to be clear, it's genuine, open and honest respectful advice. You're free to take it, or not, as you will.

EDIT: To add a touch more. Superfly did ops on Paradigm countries as well.
Ya know what I did? reached out to Mercs, and said "yo, can you please ask Superfly to knock it off?"
Funnily enough, the ops stopped.
It's almost like Diplomacy has an effect or something.

I'm an aussie, we consider drinking to be our job ;)

Good to see you here at the B grade comic con too man ;)
How ya been?

Standard alliance policy.
It's also stated in M4D's policies, so there's that.

It came about because for awhile there, people would tag up, use tag protection to grow, then leave tag and suicide.
Sometimes because that was always their intent, sometimes because they got the fluffs on and want to cause issues.

It's a thing called "tag responsibility".

It means that if someone leaves your tag, you're still considered responsible for them for 72 hours after they detagged, or you removed them.

That's why people are telling him to talk to Jouster.

As for your claim that people won't help, coalie is already saving turns.

Buch is an old name, and has earned himself a large level of respect, so yeah, people will help him.

Xyle is correct about responsibility windows.
Sucks when people do stuff like this

Indeed, tAN has previously been president.

Most older players would recognise that the current Paradigm senate are all former presidents/VP's.

Of course it does, tAN created it!

all hail the hypnotAN!

What, did you think that I'd immediately tremble in my boots and beg for protection from a 2 man suicider tag?

You're literally attempting to make enemies of the entire server. I'd suggest you focus on sorting out the active enemies you already have, rather than trying to create more.
Especially given you have cathankins threatening to run clans off the server on your behalf.

Personally, I'm not out to run you off the server, but I won't tolerate being threatened.

And look, I get that you have a bit of a hard on for me personally, because I acted to remove doug from leadership, it is what it is.

You called me out.

I pointed out you were specifically wrong about Superfly calling you a groomer.

I would argue that if superfly had said the things you claim, that multiple mods would have actively given him at least a temporary ban.

That hasn't happened, so it seems more realistic that you have completely misread and misinterpreted what was said.

You chose to threaten Paradigm, I let it go.

You and cathankins have deceitfully attempted to claim victim status after you decided to suicide on evo, then got splattered by their allies.

I actually pity you at this point.
You went from a chill player in Paradigm, to a more or less reasonable player under your own tag, who left people alone, and got left alone in return, to now following cathankins like a puppy, and becoming a straight up failed suicider.

I called you nothing.
I said you were wrong about what superfly actually said.

I'd suggest very strongly that you tone it down a little.

I let your prior threats slide.
Don't push your luck.

If memory serves, I believe he was referring to cathankins as having groomed you into a suicider, not calling you a groomer.

I could be hair splitting here, but ya know

No, that's not why I'm calling you a suicider.
I could care less about your personal hard on for superfly.

I'm calling you a suicider because you suicided on evo, because superfly. (Who isn't even in evo).

You talk about dishonesty, stop trying to misrepresent mine, and everyone else's words

Hey gents, can someone shoot me a line either here on forums, or via discord please?
Cheers!

Evo didn't hit you last set either.

Mercs didn't "call their allies"

Their allies did what pacted allies do, and came to help, no questions asked.

Now, you've decided to hit Evo.

Once again, Evo's allies did what allies do, and came to help no questions asked.

Basically, you chose to provoke this again this set.
Not the other way round.

Lastly, you're now threatening to run clans off the server, unless they do as you dictate.
That's not how it works, and I really don't think this is going to turn out for you the way you seem to think it will.

You probably could have peaced out this set if you were smart, and left people the hell alone.
Instead, you chose to start yourself another pointless confrontation.
The ultimate irony, is I pretty much guarantee evo will still finish top of the score tables.

So not only did you suicide, you did so badly.

Hey folks.
On a serious note for a minute, here is our updated Paradigm contact list.

Drow - President. Discord: Drowakm
Sir Acheron - HFA. Discord: Ashaeron.se
Sir Detmer - Senate. Discord Alex_t337
tAN - Senate. Discord: tan_cleantoe

We also have a new discord server, so please feel free to grab one of us, pop in and say hi.

Drow
Paradigm President.

Did you, or did you not, hit Evo OOP?

Evo had not hit you.
That's suiciding.

I'm making my judgements based DIRECTLY on your actions, nothing else.

YOU attacked a 3rd party (Evo), in a blatant attempt, which you already admitted to, to get them to hit Superfly.
Instead, Mercs and SoL acted as per their pacts with Evo, and turned you into smears, repeatedly.

No spin, nothing to do with he said, she said.

Based SOLELY on your actions, and the responses.
Right now, you are nothing more than a suicider and failed bully.

You don't like being referred to as a suicider, stop acting like one.
It's really, really that simple.

I'm sorry, this from the one attacking unrelated third parties because they have a hard on for one specific player?
That would be like me deciding to farm you and josey because BlackHole made me sad...

Also, it turns out M4D have 31.
Well done Leto!

doug is not a leader in Paradigm.
he is a member here still though.

I'm going off the info I have to hand /shrug

https://earthempires.com/...turned-52616?t=1714144946

Read Jouster's post from april 23rd.
You were given warning they were going to kill you for the set.
This is exactly what they said they were going to do, I don't know why you're surprised?

You prodded and pushed them, and continued to poke and prod, then when they act, declare them the bad guys?
um, ok, I guess?

Sometimes I wonder whether you are trying to compete with Cathankins for the oddest twists of logic on the server...

no, they said KFC

You have a whole swag of stuff wrong as usual Blackhole.
About 5 or 6 paradigm members went to M4D.

a few other former paradigmers, and a bunch of former NA players, came out of retirement and joined M4D as well.

(that's why M4D has 20 odd, and we have 20 in Paradigm.)

I have not kicked ANYONE out of Paradigm.
We resolved an internal leadership issue.

Yes, M4D are our brothers, between our former players who play there, and a bunch of the other guys who have come out of retirement that are friendly names, we get on well with them. It's called friends.

No, we are not planning to war anyone.

No, we are not close with Josey and co.
You may recall that Josey straight up threatened Paradigm this set at the end of last set.
It's disappointing, because Josey was a good member when he played back in paradigm many moons ago.

he and cathankins have decided to suicide on Evo, and mercs and sol are leaving them as vacant space as a result.

I think I have covered pretty much the entirety of your completely misinformed post.

Drow
Paradigm President.

Just to be clear, Josey is not in Paradigm :)

Maan! you ruined the supa sekret 1 tank AB FS on ourselves!!!

You are correct in that regard.