then up the attack % strength of the country hit i.e. make it so the countries that were land-grabbed can click on a retal button(available for 72 hours) and their attack strength is adjusted to make the retal possible. Just like in nature a baby rattlesnake is a lot more venomous then their full grown counterparts. Could be applied to mini-alliances or untags too as a differential equalizer so countries that hit countries 1/10 their size need to be careful (i.e. no more free rides at the expense of new players). If the defending country clicks on the retal button the differential equalizer kicks in and they could potentially use it to top-feed 1:1 for each land-grab they sustained.

No prob Vinag, I rarely give a damn about my country these days anyway, it just surprised me that I made the kill list... meh these things happen.

There are ways though to protect netters from suiciders and keep untagged or mini alliance protected or at least more fair for all involved.

/me wonders if Pang and Rockman should debate the one thing for the sake of accuracy of course :p

waits for Anoniem to confirm such a wild and speculative accusation ...;p ... Maybe Anoniem can negotiate my ability to agree to such a story for free land-grabs on his country :D Or maybe Thomas's country will be offered in our negotiations hmmm now that would be interesting ;D

yep L;L and if someone wants Alliance wide retals then make it so the country hit can retal on any country in the offending alliance. Otherwise just leave it at 1v1. While i do understand the concept of joining an alliance for protection, i.e. allowing another player to take your retal. I do believe that the country hit being an innocent country should have the choice of hitting any country of their choice i.e one innocent country for another innocent country. Talk about your alliance mates being really upset with you for hitting another alliance as their countries potentially go into the cross-hairs.

I also agree the 1/12 size is way too big of a gap, perhaps limiting the grabs an untagged can do even under war ops i.e they can only hit countries 50% their size. Likewise only countries 50% their size can hit them would keep things fair. If a country tags up they must be in an alliance with more then 3 members to break out of this protective shell. All bets are off (i.e. they lose their protective shell) if an untagged (or mini-alliance) country attacks with anything other then a land-grab.

This would at least allow a small alliance to grow on the server without getting farmed by countries 10 times their size.

The downside is it could be used by alliances to protect their restarts but it would definitely make for some interesting wars.

not worth it besides as an x-Valkyrie I wouldn't want a Rage country killed over some puny untagged country I was messing around with in my spare time :p -- As a Valk I more then know the dangers of playing untagged... though I do not recall them ever killing a country that did not attack them first.

lol ... zonk ... wrong ... though we did play earth together for a few set in Poetic Justice :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pOQZwDSRXQ

lol... so it was Anoniem hitting me, I remember when Mr. Gainsboro used to try to recruit me for Sanct ... I'm guessing he went back to RD.

edit;
lol just looked up Mr. Gainsboro ... he's in LaF... what is this world coming to. ... nice choice though.

granted rockman I know it is not wise to topfeed but mid-feeding and holding your own against the retals shouldn't be that big a deal.

Have the formulas changed that much that the attacker has that much of an advantage? If so then war-clans must be having a field day...

omg ... really c'mon what happen to the warrior spirit of this game ... do alliances these days really get their panties up in a bunch when someone does a legit land-grab?

lol maybe ... but then I never played Utopia so really would not know :)

slagpit, if it does not take guts and skill then why don't we see more of it ??? ... sorry I forgot to add and actually hold onto those acres i.e. bounce the retals ;)

Dave i played pretty much untagged knowing I would be a land farm there was no delusion on my part. Earth has been that way for a very long while now. There was a time when players had pride in their countries and would hit countries either bigger then themselves or a country almost at the same net-worth. But those days have long since passed us. What they teach the noobs these days is to bottomfeed and think a 26-50k acre country bottom-feeding is some great achievement of prowess.

I used to love earth because you get the posts about some topfeed for 10K acres... that took guts, skill and know how. Farming a country for 10 acres a hit takes absolutely no skill. No better then playing sims. JMHO

lol ... Dibs since i was the one who played the country I can tell you I had 0 spies ... and did not launch any missiles... no offensive action of any kind came from that country.

My only conclusion is extreme paranoia coming from players who feared that some netter was going to suicide them. Never have suicided in almost 8 years of playing earth... but then maybe the rules have changed and anything goes now.

Just bored and wanted to see how far the country could go ... is the server really that paranoid ???

Please show me a single attack from the country "Fern Gully" that would have called for someone to kill the country... Is this really what earth has degenerated into ??

I suppose farming the country wasn't good enough...

10 -- Fern Gully (#1) -- 13,424 -- $12,787,712 -- FG

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